sagardip   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 12
Location: Calgary

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-03-08 23:11:28

I got very valuable points while going through this threa. I found
www. R2India.com , another website for Return to india and found lot more information. If some one rally intersted and have some doubt than I recommend to vist.

Here , my basic question was that with growing economy , india is quite comparable.Here in this forum I am not sure how many people answered and they have situaltion What I am describinbg. Situation varies with family back ground. If u have teen age childerns than there will be different situation and if you have 5-7 years old kids than situation will be different. If you good job prospectus tha situation is differnt too. Also where u are living that is also Important. I am not discouraging other people but if I have tomlive in some states in Wester or sourthen part of India than situation is different than easter or Norther part of India. That is not possible in every case.



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-03-08 05:33:52

Very much so - although the scenario changes with a change in circumstance viz the kind of job / salary you are returning back to I feel (at least for myself) that beyond salaries and life styles there may be other things which bind / un bind us to a place for eg some desis may not wish to return even if offered fat pay packets and at the same time - its only a minuscule of Indian population which decides to immigrate - the majority including some highly qualified and earning people decide to stay back.

I guess those somethings have ,ore to do with how we define success and achievement in life which may be very subjective.


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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-03-08 12:54:28

A village saying in Tamil Nadu goes “Coming in opposite directions, two wise men will have 3 lanes, 2 if one of them happen to be not wise and only one lane when both are not so”. It is exactly this wisdom of the poor and illiterate down the ages, which has prevented blood letting in India like during the French, Russian or Chinese Revolutions. The simple and frugal lifestyle of those people has catapulted nine out of ten of the so-called “successful Desis” living in America. Whether the latter will be able to replicate the success of their parents (in educating and seeing their wards well off) will be a moot point. With the permissiveness in the New World and deceptions where sub-standard can pass of as sub-prime, their children’s future may be anywhere from being fishermen in Arctic or ending up as cowboys in Ushuaia.
Secondly, there is this frequent talk of the Indian government’s reservation policy. In TN itself we have districts with poor resources like Sivakasi, Tirupur and Namakkal bustling with entrepreneurship and success. None of them there expected government to provide them education or employment. There are many such industrial towns all over the country. None of the business people there have gone to the prestigious business schools, which place their students on tens of lacs salary according to news channels. Nobody in the media take care to find out, how many of them retained their jobs at the end of the 1st year. Falling prey to this type of glamour and false reporting, most people take up immigration. It is better to acknowledge this, make a decision for good and return to India. By cheating others that they are big successes in America, people cheat themselves and only become more miserable failures.
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puttoo   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 1096
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-03-08 14:09:22

Quote:
Originally posted by ramar2005

There are many such industrial towns all over the country. None of the business people there have gone to the prestigious business schools, which place their students on tens of lacs salary according to news channels. Nobody in the media take care to find out, how many of them retained their jobs at the end of the 1st year. Falling prey to this type of glamour and false reporting, most people take up immigration. It is better to acknowledge this, make a decision for good and return to India. By cheating others that they are big successes in America, people cheat themselves and only become more miserable failures.
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Two very good points you have raised . I totally agree with you that you dont need to have a business degree to be a succesfull businessman. Even Dhirubai Ambani made his billions and he did not go to a business school. But that did not stop him from sending his sons to business schools in US ... why? He, of all the people understood the value of a good education.

As for the media showing the wrong picture, tell me on what basis are you making the statement " how many of them retained their jobs at the end of the 1st year" . Do you have an study or any figures on what happens after one year to these students or it is your gut feeling that they loose their jobs.

As for glamour of immigrating in concerned, i think a lot of people have complained about this, but at the end of day a person who decides to immigrate takes the decision on his or her own free will ..... frankly i get a bit surprised when i meet people and they have done no check on what their chances of succes are in this country. Most people just land with the hope that if XYZ could do it then why not me !!!!!! and when the reality dawns on them that it is not a " sitter" as it looked from outside then they start feeling frustrated and cheated.



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-03-08 19:31:25

Someone said on this thread itself that Canada needs a perennial flow of English speaking qualified people who can work in odd jobs - which I believe is not an understatement as a majority of well qualified immigrants who were in respectable jobs in their own home countries are doing odd jobs because the system & economy does not absorb them - possibly never intended to .

Otherwise how would engineers , phd s , PG s land in menial Tim Horton s / security / cabbie jobs ?? The fact is that for every Immigrant earning > 60K there are 10 who are getting 36K . Look around . And the vicious circle is such that 2 years in an un related work and its harder to come back to your original stream .

Immigration is a major decision and people who have better options and are able to do their homework think twice . These days the proportion of people wanting to immigrate is lessening - those who are caught in the quandary are the ones who are earning average salaries in India and see little hope - when they land they realize the vagaries --- sadly there s no way of simulating what lies ahead or to forecast the future - the proof of pudding lies in eating it .


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Maharaj   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 1721
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-03-08 15:40:56

Quote:
Originally posted by Iceberg
No one asked nirdosh dil to post his personal info. He did it on his own to prove whatever he wanted to. And he ended up with a mouth bigger than his foot.


:D
Yes, No one asked ... I assumed and he kept on reply to prove his point.

Quote:
Originally posted by Innocent_heart
Pune international school you can complete 12th in 16 year.

Germany education might give you engineering degree in 3 year depend upon point system if you are intelligent.


I guess, you are intelligent enough to use Pune International & German Engineering School but those schools does not teach when to shut. In anycase, You have been living in "International Standard" half of your life (which only Intelligent people can use).

I'll repeat DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD ... YOU ARE NOTHING.


You have done your schooling in Internation School & in Germany ... and you still talk about Patriotism. It reminds me of "Na Ghar ka Na Ghat Ka"



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Innocent_heart   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 88
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-03-08 20:14:48

Quote:
Originally posted by Maharaj


I guess, you are intelligent enough to use Pune International & German Engineering School but those schools does not teach when to shut. In anycase, You have been living in "International Standard" half of your life (which only Intelligent people can use).

I'll repeat DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD ... YOU ARE NOTHING.


You have done your schooling in Internation School & in Germany ... and you still talk about Patriotism. It reminds me of "Na Ghar ka Na Ghat Ka"





So Mahatma gandhi/Nehru/Rahul gandhi/ Madhorao scindia etc
and all who studied and lived abroad they were not Patriotic good to know that. Even if could have gone to govt school and would be able to pass every year, would have allowed you to complete 12th at 16-17year of age. Then you wouldn't have to come here via human trafficing and do what not to change you passport.

Yes you can hate India because for Riksha puller we don't have attractive salary it's good for you that you came here.

If Canada have people like you No wonder why all the anti Indian activity is funded from here.

this much of hate about India will take you no where.




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