"A 1 billion people country means a larger market and hence larger opportunities "

Not necessarily there are other components to the whole equation viz resources & infrastructure availability . In fact if you look around - you will find that over population brings about a reduction in wealth due to more distribution . Ever heard of 'disguised employment'

Please avoid personal comments / remarks - they lead nowhere .

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Fido.

The so called 'Disguised Employment' is not an Indian feature. That is something common in US only. In countries like India, where trade unions are much stronger, the concept will never work.. don't you think? Anyways, it is a way to reduce cost to the company; it doesn't reduce the work opportunity!

Like I (and few others earlier) mentioned, India's issue is not lack of opportunities, but it is the fact that bulk of the opportunities are denied to the common man in the name of reservation, corruption (bribe to get the job), contacts etc. It is not a fair market. The only area where there is a fair competition is in large private organizations (mostly MNC). Even there, now talks are on for 'reservation'. In smaller private organizations, it is mostly contacts that matter. For govt job, it's reservation and bribery.

If anything, job market here is more competitive than India's. Any immigrant who made it here will know what he/she had to go thru initially to get the feet down. Even the successful ones had to struggle hard for the initial 1-3 months at least. Hence the view that the job market here is not as competitive in India is absurd! It is just more fairer than India's - still there are constraints like new immigrant/no canadian experience etc., which one has to work thru.

Indian farming was an age long example of disguised employment where on the same piece of land 4 brothers were working which was earlier tilled by one man - their father . I gave this example to prove that population growth strains resources and incomes.

Competition in India v/s competition in Canada --- to my understanding there s no comparison as resources in Canada are currently much more their population unlike a reverse situation in India - a prime reason for Canada inducing Immigration .


A few facts with respect to competition in India

The total strength for IIMs in for 06 is 1300 approx

the applicant for 06 were = 172000.

hence competion for general candidate 1:213

IIT : nearly three lakh students who competed for 4,078 seats = 1 : 75 .

AIIMS : 100000/40 = 1: 2500

I had read once that people who score a 99 percentile in GMAT (students the top 10 US Univs would love to take) --- cant be guaranteed of an interview call to the IIMs


Reserved jobs and positions are a minuscule of the current Indian job market and corruption / malpractices do not apply to private jobs mostly and thats where the path is leading to .... shun Govt jobs and take private ones .

Canada is very competitive and fair for laborers , cabbies and waiters but not for qualified immigrants as the system / economy is not geared (read intends ) to absorb them . Otherwise you would not find highly qualified PG s / PhD s lining up in labor / odd jobs . There s a dearth of doctors and the Govt doesn't take any measures of recognizing foreign degrees which surprisingly India does as per TOI report today .

India s labor market is very fair - where people who are less educated land up in menial jobs like cabbies / waiters .......... here due to a shortage on these jobs most immigrants are forced into these despite their high education / qualifications / credentials which are double checked when they are taken in . All in all its a sham .

I have not found many highly qualified Indians coming to Canada (IIT s / IIM s) unlike the US . But then US is different - they recognize foreign credentials and absorb them into the job stream successfully.

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Fido.

Now you are talking my kind of language. I could not agree more with you on this. This is never going to change in Canada as the common man (read one who has been here for long - 25 - 30 years or more) fails to recognise that the Asian countries are producing much qualified work force than it was that many years back. The mentality is still - you have come here because you could not get opportunities over there.

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Canada is very competitive and fair for laborers , cabbies and waiters but not for qualified immigrants as the system / economy is not geared (read intends ) to absorb them . Otherwise you would not find highly qualified PG s / PhD s lining up in labor / odd jobs . There s a dearth of doctors and the Govt doesn't take any measures of recognizing foreign degrees which surprisingly India does as per TOI report today .

India s labor market is very fair - where people who are less educated land up in menial jobs like cabbies / waiters .......... here due to a shortage on these jobs most immigrants are forced into these despite their high education / qualifications / credentials which are double checked when they are taken in . All in all its a sham .

I have not found many highly qualified Indians coming to Canada (IIT s / IIM s) unlike the US . But then US is different - they recognize foreign credentials and absorb them into the job stream successfully.

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I couldn't stop laughing when these desi try to be Canadian or whatever, I think White people is the best person to answer them how much they accept this ABCD but I will try.
its same story everywhere when an Indian claim he is British/Canadian/American etc, its so funny. I will write it later, its friday night so happy weekend guys.

I know one Indian who married with white women try his best to be canadian but eat "Lauki" at home



take care guys

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Indian farming was an age long example of disguised employment where on the same piece of land 4 brothers were working which was earlier tilled by one man - their father . I gave this example to prove that population growth strains resources and incomes.

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Competition in India v/s competition in Canada --- to my understanding there s no comparison as resources in Canada are currently much more their population unlike a reverse situation in India - a prime reason for Canada inducing Immigration .


A few facts with respect to competition in India

The total strength for IIMs in for 06 is 1300 approx

the applicant for 06 were = 172000.

hence competion for general candidate 1:213

IIT : nearly three lakh students who competed for 4,078 seats = 1 : 75 .

AIIMS : 100000/40 = 1: 2500

I had read once that people who score a 99 percentile in GMAT (students the top 10 US Univs would love to take) --- cant be guaranteed of an interview call to the IIMs

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Reserved jobs and positions are a minuscule of the current Indian job market and corruption / malpractices do not apply to private jobs mostly and thats where the path is leading to .... shun Govt jobs and take private ones .

Canada is very competitive and fair for laborers , cabbies and waiters but not for qualified immigrants as the system / economy is not geared (read intends ) to absorb them . Otherwise you would not find highly qualified PG s / PhD s lining up in labor / odd jobs . There s a dearth of doctors and the Govt doesn't take any measures of recognizing foreign degrees which surprisingly India does as per TOI report today .

India s labor market is very fair - where people who are less educated land up in menial jobs like cabbies / waiters .......... here due to a shortage on these jobs most immigrants are forced into these despite their high education / qualifications / credentials which are double checked when they are taken in . All in all its a sham .

I have not found many highly qualified Indians coming to Canada (IIT s / IIM s) unlike the US . But then US is different - they recognize foreign credentials and absorb them into the job stream successfully.

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I couldn't stop laughing when these desi try to be Canadian or whatever, I think White people is the best person to answer them how much they accept this ABCD but I will try.
its same story everywhere when an Indian claim he is British/Canadian/American etc, its so funny. I will write it later, its friday night so happy weekend guys.

I know one Indian who married with white women try his best to be canadian but eat "Lauki" at home



take care guys

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