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Posted on: 10-05-05 15:38:07
With regard to Crenshaw's statements
8. No we are not looking for the immigration department to hold our hands. But
we are speaking out against are the dishonest Canadian embassies who lie to immigrants and tell them they 'WILL' get a job in Canada.
7. The cost of living IS astronomical. You live in Toronto don't you? You should know! I checked out that URL, oooh let's go open a business in Moncton or Saskatoon, what great cities for business prospects. . .what a joke.
6. The answer is YES! People are indeed 'falling dead left, right and centre'. They are dying in hospitals and emergency rooms waiting for treatment. Read: http://poormedicalstudent.blogspot.com/2004/07/dying-to-see-doctor.html
5. Are you telling me that taxes are not high in Canada?
4. Logic is not flawed. 2.5 Billion is a conservative estimate. They are very money hungry. Probably taken quite a bit of money from your pocket also.
3. Canada is perhaps the only country in the world that has no culture. This is fact. Or wait I forgot about beer, hockey, snow and welfare and ignorant desi's like yourself who try their best to fit in by watching hockey and drinking beer.
2. There is nothing like a wicked Winnipeg winter. Enough said.
1. No jobs indeed. Where do you work?
Folks, stop, this is getting nasty. Everyone claims they are right. Fine. End of discussion.
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Pray as if everything depended on GOD
Then work, as if everything depends on you!!!
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Folks, stop, this is getting nasty. Everyone claims they are right. Fine. End of discussion.
Not everyone except Crenshaw, read all posts of Crenshaw.
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Kap
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8. No we are not looking for the immigration department to hold our hands. But
we are speaking out against are the dishonest Canadian embassies who lie to immigrants and tell them they 'WILL' get a job in Canada.
Which Canadian embassy told you that you "WILL" get a job in Canada?
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7. The cost of living IS astronomical. You live in Toronto don't you?
Yes I do, and I don't think it is astronomical, especially when I compare it to similar sized cities in the US.
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6. The answer is YES! People are indeed 'falling dead left, right and centre'. They are dying in hospitals and emergency rooms waiting for treatment. Read: http://poormedicalstudent.blogspot.com/2004/07/dying-to-see-doctor.html</font>
Does the article that you have provided a link to, say that?
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5. Are you telling me that taxes are not high in Canada?
You saw the link with comparisons to other jurisdictions.
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4. Logic is not flawed. 2.5 Billion is a conservative estimate.
Conservative estimate - on what basis? ..........and $2.5b is peanuts for an economy of this size anyway!
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3. Canada is perhaps the only country in the world that has no culture. This is fact.
Oh yeah, your culture is superior, eh?
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Confusion, confusion
WHO SHOULD WE LISTEN TO???????????????????
Don’t be confused! The facts are plain and simple. Canada is neither a utopian paradise as some over optimistic people try to make out nor is it a gutter as painted by the so-called whiners. It is a country like any other and has its own benefits and drawbacks. It is good in some ways and not so in others. So there is no need of argument or dispute in terms of describing the country and its affairs in general.
That said, what is important is to understand how good it is for immigrants and to that unfortunately, there is no single answer. How good it is for immigrants varies from individual to individual. It depends on the individual himself, his field of work, his personality, his expectations and a whole lot of other factors that are practically impossible to define. Not all immigrants fail nor do all succeed.
However what can said with certainty is, that it is not a cake walk for most. Going by numbers only, and using statistics it cannot be denied that it is an unfavorable environment, or at least not a very favorable one. The number of immigrants who end up not getting what they had hoped for is much larger than those who do, and that is a fact. Period.
Next come questions like what does it take to avoid failure? How to succeed? These questions have been answered on this board copious number of times. But then the same or even better suggestions and advice is just as easily available from other more authentic sources. There are certain features that improve chances of getting a “proper” job, and that is assuming “getting a proper job” is what is meant by “success”. Some of these are educations/certification from a Canadian institution, experience in the field of IT, good communication skills, younger age etc. The list is quite long.
Hope you are a little less confused now.
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Diogenes
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The Cynic
Certainly, a lot less.
Canuck3000's post led me to believe I was going to a place worse than a third-world country. Living in USA and in a situation where GC looks like a distant dream, left with just an option of going to Canada and reading a post like that is a shot unimaginably painful to bear.
You give a balanced opinion backed by some of the generalities even I have heard before.
Believe me, I have relatives who do not want to leave India even for the US. And I cannot but disagree with them so I see them not as wrong but as persons choosing a particular way of living. Even India has a problem of jobs in your field.
I am sure Canuck3000 has had some mighty bitter experiences to swallow. I would want to call him sometime.
Crenshaw with you as well.
By the way, thanks DiogenestheCynic. Your username is quite a challenge to spell!
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Pray as if everything depended on GOD
Then work, as if everything depends on you!!!
I got this excellent message from: http://www.canadaimmigrants.com/forum_2.asp
(It is very good advice to people who are thinking of immigrating to Canada)
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I have been reading all the comments on this forum and while it is disheartening, I think the people coming to Canada are not doing the research properly. There is no free lunch - anywhere, weather it is Canada or any part of the globe.
Life in Canada IS good IF you can find a job there. But the job market remains dismal (and people hoping that will turn around are only hoping against all odds.) Of course, that also means bad business prospects and high costs etc. So then, one may ask, why come to Canada at all?
Well, take Canada for what it is - An excellent stepping stone to the US (and that's about it). Once you are Canadian Citizen you can use it to work in the US. That process takes 3 years and that time will be well spent being a student at an excellent and low cost Canadian univ like Toronto / Waterloo / UBC. (Don't bother with the no name ones and PLEASE don't go to the French ones).
So essentially then, it is a good place if you are in your mid to late 20s, want to pursue a graduate degree and then move on to the US where Canadian citizens can work on TN Visa (and hopefully H1 and then green card). Anyone not fitting this profile has much more to lose than gain. If you are into your late 30s to late 40s, try to put things in perspective - Canada has little to offer you and you will be blowing up your savings. Weather you are black/white/Asian/Latino - doesn't make a difference. There is racism, but the economy is the main problem. The job market is just awful. You will have to struggle to meet basic needs. If that is still appealing, go ahead - You will be totally responsible for your own peril.
I came from India, leaving behind a well paid job as a software engineer (6 lakhs per year). I was still 27 when I came, so after trying for a job for one year without results, I switched to grad school, did a masters from U Toronto and as soon as I got citizenship, went to the US where I am still on TN status and working in a good job. Thankfully US still considers Canadian universities to be equal in terms of education quality. Besides this, I see no merit to life in Canada. Earlier on, retired Canadian citizens used to be able to collect benefits even if living abroad. Now they cant even do that So all you are left with is an expensive country with freezing temperatures. Best of luck
Vinod, Albany, NY
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