sanchita   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 59
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-12 10:01:31

Quote:
Originally posted by Vandematram

It looks like it will not happen for a long time.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1128906--tim-harper-census-data-fuels-dreams-of-perpetual-conservative-majorities




By Tim Harper
National Affairs Columnist
It was Quebec Premier Jean Charest who most eloquently analyzed the new economic realities of Canada.

“Oil, gas and potash — and others. That’s the financial situation of the country,” Charest bluntly told his fellow premiers last month in Victoria.

Charest didn’t need census numbers to acknowledge the shift westward, the irresistible pull of resource riches and the ebbing of power from the country’s centre.

The new influence in this country is being wielded by the likes of Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall, Alberta’s Alison Redford, should she win a mandate in this spring’s election, and the winner of next year’s provincial vote in British Columbia.

But, first and foremost, the census numbers released this week show the potential for the consolidation of power by Stephen Harper’s Conservatives for years to come.

There are 30 more seats being added to the House of Commons in time for the 2015 campaign, a move that acknowledges the population growth in British Columbia, Alberta and Ontario.

Seats are also to be added in Quebec to maintain that province’s historical percentage.

Ontario gets 15 more seats, B.C. and Alberta six each and Quebec three.

In Ontario, these new seats will inevitably be added in the 905 belt, a nod to the growth of communities such as Milton, Markham, Brampton and Vaughan.

Milton is again the fastest-growing city in Canada. Oak Ridges-Markham is the largest riding in the country.

All those towns are reliably Conservative.

Conversely, the slowest rates of growth in this province — or outright declines — are found in northern or rust belt cities such as Thunder Bay, Sudbury and Windsor.

All are NDP strongholds.

Of the 15 ridings in Ontario with the largest populations, 14 are represented by the Conservatives.

In Alberta, all six of the fastest-growing ridings are held by Conservatives and two-thirds of the fastest growing British Columbia ridings vote Conservative.

Now that the census data has been released, 10 independent commissions, one in each province, will be convened to redraw the country’s electoral map.

The Liberals, having digested the census numbers, appear to be having night terrors, thinking of a perpetual Conservative majority.

Thursday, two prominent members of their caucus, Marc Garneau and Stéphane Dion, raised the bogeymen of partisan meddling, gerrymandering, Conservative dirty tricks and secret backroom deals when it comes to drawing riding boundaries.

Never mind that they have no evidence of this.

Raising the possibility appears to be their only weapon.

“There will likely be great pressures by the Conservative Party to fix the process in a way that favours them,” Garneau said.

But the Conservatives don’t need dirty tricks to feel bullish on their electoral chances.

They will aggressively court skilled new immigrants to fill a yawning jobs gap in the boom provinces, and they have already assiduously courted new arrivals they believe embody “conservative values,” favouring entrepreneurship over government intervention.

Another wave of grateful arrivals will only make it more likely that they will become Conservative voters in the future.

Harper’s laser-like fixation on the economy, primarily Alberta’s oil patch, is aimed at future prosperity in his home province and the influx of future Conservative voters lured by jobs.

Opposition parties must look at any future electoral map and feel the odds are stacked against them.

But they can take solace from recent history south of the border.

In the wake of the second Republican triumph under George W. Bush in 2004, there was much talk of a permanent Republican majority in the U.S.

Young, rock-solid Republicans were flocking to party strongholds with states like Colorado leading the way as the brave new west overtook the American rust belt.

And then reality derailed the theory.

It took two factors that could turn Canadian politics on its head in 2015 — overwhelming fatigue with the governing party and a brash, new generation of leadership, embodied in Barack Obama.

Obama was nominated in Denver. And he won Colorado.

Tim Harper is a national affairs writer. His column appears Monday, Wednesday and Friday.





We don't want to bring more and more old people in Canada to screw up the healthcare even more. It doesn't matter who is at power Conservative or Liberals or NDP. This is not acceptable not for Canada but also any other country where there is universal health care. If that happens we all have to flee from this country. No other western country allow this ridiculous old people immigration who never paid any tax but wishes to draw old age pension here.


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RBO   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 1761
Location: Mississauaga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-12 10:14:56

Quote:
Originally posted by jigz787

Ohh thats sad news ....



it is sad news for all of us who applied for parents....

This pilot project looks like another blunder from Govt. to keep people calm and wait and wait forever to bring our parents here and reunit with family.

wait and watch now for another couple of years............:(



RBO   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 1761
Location: Mississauaga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-12 10:16:03

Quote:
Originally posted by Vandematram

4 more ?.

VOTE HARPER OUT, VOTE FOR LIBERALS NEXT ELECTION.




+1



bhootnath   
Member since: Mar 11
Posts: 969
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-12 10:50:34

RBO,
First of all thank you for sharing the information first hand as I guess you are the first one in CDs to get responses.

Sanchita: Although this diverts the topic but rude attitude towards aging elders making me to respond. Based on your response obviously it looks like you are not old yet but hopefully will get there before even you realize it (this is the best wish because I do not want you/anyone to die young).
I hope you understand this, most of the applicants are applying for parents immigration is not for the screwed unversal health care system. They are applying because there are very few years left in parent's life who had struggled a lot for us to have better life. Time to return favors. One can argue that go back to the country and be with them...that is not possible because we are at such a stage that we have our responsibility towards Canadian born children..
The fact of the matter that I am scared to bring them here only because of universal healthcare...to get a CT scan done, you have to wait for a year..man..the healthcare there is much better, affordable.
If you are scared about health care and burden on economy then fix the healthcare..billions of tax $$ wasted on tylenol doctors and surgeons most of the time screw things up because the better ones migrate to neighbouring countries.
I would rather pay $1000 per month on private insurance for better healthcare than wasting my money on tax for universal health that is just going down the drain.
Looks like insurance lobby forced introdcution of 10 year supervisa.



RBO   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 1761
Location: Mississauaga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-02-12 12:07:40

Quote:
Originally posted by bhootnath

RBO,
First of all thank you for sharing the information first hand as I guess you are the first one in CDs to get responses.

Sanchita: Although this diverts the topic but rude attitude towards aging elders making me to respond. Based on your response obviously it looks like you are not old yet but hopefully will get there before even you realize it (this is the best wish because I do not want you/anyone to die young).
I hope you understand this, most of the applicants are applying for parents immigration is not for the screwed unversal health care system. They are applying because there are very few years left in parent's life who had struggled a lot for us to have better life. Time to return favors. One can argue that go back to the country and be with them...that is not possible because we are at such a stage that we have our responsibility towards Canadian born children..
The fact of the matter that I am scared to bring them here only because of universal healthcare...to get a CT scan done, you have to wait for a year..man..the healthcare there is much better, affordable.
If you are scared about health care and burden on economy then fix the healthcare..billions of tax $$ wasted on tylenol doctors and surgeons most of the time screw things up because the better ones migrate to neighbouring countries.
I would rather pay $1000 per month on private insurance for better healthcare than wasting my money on tax for universal health that is just going down the drain.
Looks like insurance lobby forced introdcution of 10 year supervisa.





++++10000.

I was going to reply to Sanchita, but meanwhile you replied to her.

thanks a lot Bhootnath for appropriate answer to her.

For Sanchita,

You are thinking that our older parents are going to screwed up the health care system when they are here than sorry to say...

Canadian govt has lots of loop hole in policy which create a problem for everyone.

if you feel that olderly people are burden on govt than how about this all people like, refugee status, wrong showing status at census for single mother with 3 or 4 kids and enjoying all the govt benefits...atleast we both are working and we are paying taxes to govt regularely.

right now we are paying for day care for almost more than $6000/ year for our kid, why b'cos we don't have anyone at home to take care about them.

for your information, My parents came last time here on visitor visa and they liked here to stay with us. They already planned when they will be here in near future than they are going start just volunter work with community centre on free hours to keep them bisy and to help out in community.

so please do not judge that all fingures are same..... are you going to work free for community right now? and honest answer is - NO correct.......



Vandematram   
Member since: Nov 08
Posts: 1448
Location: Sunny - Leone

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-12 17:38:00

Good news.

I learnt from reliable sources that it is between 12 to 24 months max.

The persons who sent papers in April 2010 have all landed fro India.

Hope for the best.


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sanchita   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 59
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-02-12 21:56:15

Quote:
Originally posted by bhootnath

RBO,
First of all thank you for sharing the information first hand as I guess you are the first one in CDs to get responses.

Sanchita: Although this diverts the topic but rude attitude towards aging elders making me to respond. Based on your response obviously it looks like you are not old yet but hopefully will get there before even you realize it (this is the best wish because I do not want you/anyone to die young).
I hope you understand this, most of the applicants are applying for parents immigration is not for the screwed unversal health care system. They are applying because there are very few years left in parent's life who had struggled a lot for us to have better life. Time to return favors. One can argue that go back to the country and be with them...that is not possible because we are at such a stage that we have our responsibility towards Canadian born children..
The fact of the matter that I am scared to bring them here only because of universal healthcare...to get a CT scan done, you have to wait for a year..man..the healthcare there is much better, affordable.
If you are scared about health care and burden on economy then fix the healthcare..billions of tax $$ wasted on tylenol doctors and surgeons most of the time screw things up because the better ones migrate to neighbouring countries.
I would rather pay $1000 per month on private insurance for better healthcare than wasting my money on tax for universal health that is just going down the drain.
Looks like insurance lobby forced introdcution of 10 year supervisa.





Why did you leave India? Did'nt you know that time your parents might have to live alone? Yes, Super visa is good for everyone but very few people want to opt for it because they have to pay for the insurance.


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