And we say there is no racism in Canada


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biomed   
Member since: Jul 03
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Location: Mississauga, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-04-04 16:34:49

Very True Jake... let me correct some numbers... Hindus are 65-70% in India, 25-30% Muslims and rest other... If you go by these number India should be a Hindu Nation but officially it is secular country.

India is a Hindu nation ( thats what you suggested) but they claim they are a Secular Nation ( Thats what law says) so I think in same way you are trying to support Mercury. Canada is a White nation ( if I go with your formula on India) but they claim they are Multicultural Nation ( thats what law says).

So according to you Canada should call itself a white nation not the Multicultural nation, isn't it?


Regards and regards.
Biomed


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BlueLobster   
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-04-04 16:34:56

Here's something worth sharing with everyone. The much touted and highly successful scramjet experiment research by NASA was led by an Indian, Arun Kumar.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_658699,00040005.htm (paste the whole link in explorer, otherwise you won't see it because of the comma in the .htm page name)

Luckily for Arun, in the 30 years years or so that he's been in the United States

1) There was never a single instance of racism.
2) He found jobs within 1 week of applying everytime.
3) There was never any favoritism at NASA and no glass ceilings.
4) His car never had a flat on the road.
5) While selecting keys from a bunch, he always got the right one the first time around. :D

I'm assuming all this never happened to him because otherwise he would have cursed the U.S., packed his bags and gone back to India. What a lucky guy!


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-04-04 17:57:18

Quote:
Orginally posted by biomed

Very True Jake... let me correct some numbers... Hindus are 65-70% in India, 25-30% Muslims and rest other... If you go by these number India should be a Hindu Nation but officially it is secular country.

India is a Hindu nation ( thats what you suggested) but they claim they are a Secular Nation ( Thats what law says) so I think in same way you are trying to support Mercury. Canada is a White nation ( if I go with your formula on India) but they claim they are Multicultural Nation ( thats what law says).

So according to you Canada should call itself a white nation not the Multicultural nation, isn't it?


Regards and regards.
Biomed


you really do draw those conclussions and believe them too dont you ?. Wow! :)
It's nice to see your thought process presented so lucidly

Heres my humble opinion on laws:
A countrys laws are derived from the aspirations of a country/people and/or its leaders. Based on what they STRIVE to be and , in the case of developed minds/societies, higher ideals than white, hindu etc. India's secularity was concieved by some highly evolved minds....just as Canadas multi-culturalism. Ofcourse, you can interpret that anyway you want to.
Anyway I am unable to continue flogging this dead horse.

Thanks and regards along with regards :D


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biomed   
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Location: Mississauga, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-04-04 23:00:29

Oh Ok... I did not draw any conclussion:p . I thought it was very much clear what ever you wanted to say.. anyways :D :D :D :D

Anyways! Regards with lots of regards
Biomed


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mercury6   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-04-04 11:46:33

Secularism and Multi-culturalism are 2 different things though not totally exclusive.

One is being equally detached from all religions, the other is a celebration of all cultures and promotion of diversity. Just because you have 1 member of every country at a place doesnt make it multicultural (sure technically it does). India is both Secular and Multi cultural. One example is that in India we have holidays for all the religious festivals, not so in canada, which technically makes Canada neither Secular nor multi-cultural.....at least thats the conclusion.

I am not trying to bash canada, I am sure they have good intentions:( when they bring such diverse peoples to their shores, but if I am not wrong in terms of history they are a very very young nation and this "multi-culturalism" even younger.........ragards. No comparison with India....






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shrek   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 116
Location: Milton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-04-04 12:09:45

Indian is a mess when it comes to holidays. They have so many holidays for every damn thing that it crumples the economy (but I like the holidays). Canada doesn't offer any religious holidays except for Easter and Christmas which are so old that they can't really change them. Infact more companies and government bodies make sure they try to call the Christmas period as "Seasonal greetings" or "happy holidays" .. though I know that does not make sense, but they are trying to remove the christian sentiment from the holiday season. Apart from this I think religions get equal status.

Yes religions don't have the same popularity as in india but thats a different matter.


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-04-04 12:30:53

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Orginally posted by mercury6
I am not trying to bash canada, I am sure they have good intentions:( when they bring such diverse peoples to their shores, but if I am not wrong in terms of history they are a very very young nation and this "multi-culturalism" even younger.........ragards. No comparison with India....



You seem to have it right here. So why exactly were you disputing that Canada is multi-cultural? Because you think there are not enough VM? After all, like you said we are in still in the initial stages of this effort. Or is it because we do not celebrate all holidays( with the # of ppl from all the different countries I 'm not sure its a good idea:)?
I do not agree with your definition of multi-culturalism and secularism either but thats for another time.


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