Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 13:08:18

Yeah I guessed that . Ask me why ??

Because not only did you reject the posts & advice given by seasoned IT professionals on this thread , you have actually raised hopes of trying to get a job for some one without knowing or understanding his or her back ground.

Never , never trust anyone who promises you a job in Canada or for that reason any new place....

Networking is important here no doubt but what s more important is your skills -- hard as well as soft as well as experience / certifications ... If you are good on that ... recruiters are lined a dozen to get you interviews.

But if you are not skilled in the right areas ... well then they say Canada has the most qualified cabbies as you find doctors and engineers driving cabs here.


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Fido   
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Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 13:10:16

Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

My 2 cents on scope and openings of foreign trained, foreign experienced IT professionals in Canada. You must have good soft as well as technical skills. You may not need to be very fluent but able to understand and similarly able to concise and explain your thoughts. While working with a 10 members offshore team in India, only 3 of them used to reply the phone calls and when asked for the reason, the informal reply from a well-known team member was that the day any of the other team member will pick the phone to reply, they will definitely loose the contract. They may be very poor in communication or in technical skills. In India, to get an IT job, the ratio between soft skills and technical skill is 30:70 but in Canada, it is the other way.

Keep your options open. Ready to move to any place in Canada for the first job. Ready to pick any role for the first job. It is easy to change the role and move up quickly than getting the first job. Ready to do the co-op job as it will help you in getting the permanent one. My wild guess is that if someone has a good soft skills and real technical skills, should get the breakthrough in one year. The starting salary will be between 50 to 100K – depending upon the profile and job requirements. This salary is not bad.

At the end I will wish you good luck. That’s another thing you need to have to get success.



This is perhaps the best & most meaning post I have read on this thread ... Thanks Delhite.


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irock   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 344
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 13:24:11

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Yeah I guessed that . Ask me why ??

Because not only did you reject the posts & advice given by seasoned IT professionals on this thread , you have actually raised hopes of trying to get a job for some one without knowing or understanding his or her back ground.

Never , never trust anyone who promises you a job in Canada or for that reason any new place....

Networking is important here no doubt but what s more important is your skills -- hard as well as soft as well as experience / certifications ... If you are good on that ... recruiters are lined a dozen to get you interviews.

But if you are not skilled in the right areas ... well then they say Canada has the most qualified cabbies as you find doctors and engineers driving cabs here.



I didn't rejected any of the post....I just laughed..... hahahahah :-}

I never promised a job to anyone....read my post again

Yeah soft skills are important. But how do you suppose some person from India get it without coming here & working in contract or entry level position or doing a CO-OP ??? And how do you know she doesn't have any already ????

never believed in certifications..... Never being asked to show my certificates in any of the 25+ interviews I faced in last 10 years. All they want to hear is my work & ask questions about it, to know how much my knowledge I have. Other people can share their experience on this point...

Qualified cabbies ?? never met one myself who came in last 10 years. All of them I met came here before 20-25 years. Things have changed positively a lot in last 10 years....


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irock   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 344
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 13:30:13

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

My 2 cents on scope and openings of foreign trained, foreign experienced IT professionals in Canada. You must have good soft as well as technical skills. You may not need to be very fluent but able to understand and similarly able to concise and explain your thoughts. While working with a 10 members offshore team in India, only 3 of them used to reply the phone calls and when asked for the reason, the informal reply from a well-known team member was that the day any of the other team member will pick the phone to reply, they will definitely loose the contract. They may be very poor in communication or in technical skills. In India, to get an IT job, the ratio between soft skills and technical skill is 30:70 but in Canada, it is the other way.

Keep your options open. Ready to move to any place in Canada for the first job. Ready to pick any role for the first job. It is easy to change the role and move up quickly than getting the first job. Ready to do the co-op job as it will help you in getting the permanent one. My wild guess is that if someone has a good soft skills and real technical skills, should get the breakthrough in one year. The starting salary will be between 50 to 100K – depending upon the profile and job requirements. This salary is not bad.

At the end I will wish you good luck. That’s another thing you need to have to get success.



This is perhaps the best & most meaning post I have read on this thread ... Thanks Delhite.



yeah me too.....totally agree :-}


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 13:40:14

Quote:
Originally posted by irock

Yeah soft skills are important. But how do you suppose some person from India get it without coming here & working in contract or entry level position or doing a CO-OP ??? And how do you know she doesn't have any already ????



Your statements are contradictory.

Quote:
Originally posted by irock
never believed in certifications..... Never being asked to show my certificates in any of the 25+ interviews I faced in last 10 years.



Nobody sees your certificates since they believe you but you do put it on your resume and that adds on to your profile ... at least in IT it sure does .

Quote:
Originally posted by irock
Qualified cabbies ?? never met one myself who came in last 10 years. All of them I met came here before 20-25 years. Things have changed positively a lot in last 10 years....



You are out of touch with reality.
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Among postsecondary educated immigrant taxi drivers, one in three had a Canadian degree; the rest were foreign trained. Immigrant taxi drivers with a degree from India or Pakistan accounted for 18.8% and 11.8% of the total respectively. Among 4,515 taxi drivers with bachelor’s degrees,33.4% were Canadian trained and 35.0% had degrees from India or Pakistan. Among 1,525 taxidriverswith master’s degrees, 16.1% had Canadian degrees, and 25.3% had degrees from India.
Among 255 PhD and MD taxi drivers, 70.6% were foreign trained, of which 19.4% had degrees from India.
There were also 75 (29.4%) Canadian trained PhD or MD taxi drivers.
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irock   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 344
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 13:56:51

could you provide a link to those taxi drivers stats...??? (yeah, I don't believe you !!)


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-03-15 14:06:04

Irock:
Just Google it. It is a toronto star report that came when I was in Canada in 2010 or so.

General :
Networking is a great way to get jobs. I must also say here that, if you are even remotely related to IT, then with networking it is damn easy to get a job. But to get the networking capability is the main thing.

In other professions other than IT, networking will only get you this much. The rest will have to be your past related work experience in Canada,

For example, I had got 3 people into my previous Canadian office. They did not get it because of only me but they had previous Canadian working experience (related). However, if they had applied on their own, their resume would have gone to the Garbage but since I recommended, the boss took them in because of my word. I would not have given my word, If I had not gone through their resume / work experience and recommended them. Boss was pleased with them. But note that Architecture is one of the worst ever professions to get a job in Canada. Nothing else is that hard to get a job except may be professors of arts & medical doctors.

Murali


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