Why do all Professionals want to come to Canada?
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Posted on: 25-10-04 11:32:32
I was sure I'd read this article somewhere, finally managed to find it.
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2025/stories/20031219007000700.htm
I quote the railway representative who says ""While the minimum qualification required was a pass in Class VIII, we got applications from graduates and post-graduates, including 20,000 engineers and 3,000 MBA degree holders ,"
He was referring to the filling of vacancies for Group C and Group D jobs (train drivers, gangmen and guards).
Hmm......
Dear All pls let me have a clear picture of the job situation about the same I am a diploma mech engg and proposing to come down to Canada in next 3-4 months but all these messages scare me to mybones as the last thing I plan to do over there is clean toilets or wrk as a labour over there hence put me a mail and give me the clear picture.
Thanks and regards
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Orginally posted by kmukherjee
Dear All pls let me have a clear picture of the job situation about the same I am a diploma mech engg and proposing to come down to Canada in next 3-4 months but all these messages scare me to mybones as the last thing I plan to do over there is clean toilets or wrk as a labour over there hence put me a mail and give me the clear picture.
Thanks and regards
All I can say is that with a diploma in Engg, you might (for all your efforts) not get a job in your field. Consider Odd Jobs as a way of life. At some point (depending on economic) conditions most people will have done it at one time or another.
What is your specific area? I recently had a AC/refrigeration guy who was a diploma and as of now he is slated to leave Canada and go back to India.
This is the reality.
Rest it depends what kind of attitude you carry (positive/ negative, optimist/pessimist). Your chances of success may depend on that rather than your actual area of expertise.
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Consider Odd Jobs as a way of life.
On the contrary, DON'T ever consider them a way of life. Rather consider them as a way of sustaining yourself during the tough times. They're a means, not the goal.
And KM,
I don't know many mechanical engineers cleaning toilets here, rather I don't know any. Yes, the engineering field is a bit difficult to penetrate and you may end up having to do an odd job, but I don't think cleaning toilets is one of them. You can do data-entry / telemarketing / Mailroom / security etc etc. jobs. They help pay your rent and food expenses while you hunt down something of your choice.
Don't think there's any way to draw the "clear picture" you ask for. If you want absolutely no disruption in your life and are "scared to the bones" simply by reading the responses here, I'd suggest you stay put in India. But if you do decide to come, don't come with that state of mind or you're just gearing yourself up for the labour market.
My observation is that MOST people who don't give up DO find jobs of their choice after a certain period of struggle. The big question is whether you think life in Canada is worth that struggle (while bearing in mind that you may land a job without any struggle at all).
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Are you there?
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Manasvi,
Over here it is all dependent on spin theory. How could you are at spinning things is what gets you ahead. Don't know if you saw the flick with Robert de Niro where he uses spin theory to benefit the pres.
Actually I am in the thick of a research project and my head is spinning
from all the conflicting reports one finds on the net.
Thanks again for the link.
BKB
BKB ,
I just stated things which I understood and felt . Spin theory and its application I learnt here and how it was being used .I decided to try it myself although internally I don t support it .
I m a big fan of De Niro.Mind sharing the name of the movie .
I HAD read abt the 95 percentaliers not making to the IIMs in the year 1997 and after that I found some of my friends entering Harvard / Phoenix and some entering IIMs . from that I also felt that caliber wise the IIM Grad is much ahead .The IIT - IIM combo becomes deadly . I will see if I can help u further on this point of view by finding some more data .
Chandresh - wud have wished 2 entertain u more but I think that all this goes against a new member when he is looking for information . I will abstain myself henceforth .
Manasvi
PS : WHEN I QUOTE NEGATIVES I DO NOT DISSUADE NEWCOMERS . BUT TRY AND ACQUAINT THEM WITH PREVAILING CONDITIONS LEST THEY MAY BE TAKEN UNAWARES . THEY SHD COME DOUBLY PREPARED TO WIN THE ODDS . I AM MYSELF CONTEMPLATING ARRIVING CANADA IN 2006 ---- IN THE MEANTIME BUILDING UP MY ARSENAL .
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PS : WHEN I QUOTE NEGATIVES I DO NOT DISSUADE NEWCOMERS . BUT TRY AND ACQUAINT THEM WITH PREVAILING CONDITIONS LEST THEY MAY BE TAKEN UNAWARES . THEY SHD COME DOUBLY PREPARED TO WIN THE ODDS . I AM MYSELF CONTEMPLATING ARRIVING CANADA IN 2006 ---- IN THE MEANTIME BUILDING UP MY ARSENAL .
There are better ways of trying to inform new immigrants about the situation in Canada. You don't subject them to a barrage of negative statements (like 80% of professionals work in labour jobs) which is nothing but sensationalism. A classic example of this is the user 'kmukherjeee' who made a post yesterday and I quote:
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I am a diploma mech engg and proposing to come down to Canada in next 3-4 months but all these messages scare me to mybones as the last thing I plan to do over there is clean toilets or wrk as a labour over there hence put me a mail and give me the clear picture.
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People like 'kmukherjee' read what you guys say. When you say 80% of professionals work at Tim Horton's and then try to justify the number, they lap it up literally, not knowing that you just intend the number to be symbolic.........
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I just stated things which I understood and felt . Spin theory and its application I learnt here and how it was being used .I decided to try it myself although internally I don t support it .
I draw attention to the comments "SPIN THEORY AND ITS APPLICATION I LEARNT HERE AND HOW IT WAS BEING USED. I DECIDED TO TRY IT MYSELF"
So all of these comments about 80% professionals working at Tim Horton's was 'spin'? That would be another change in position for Manasvi!
I'll go thru all of Manasvi's different positions on this issue:
First - 80% is fact, derived from a sample survey conducted on the streets of Toronto during Manasvi's one week visit sometime in the past. The sample survey included people at shopping malls (perhaps in the washroom) and all of the sad faces at Phil Nathan Square (read name is Nathan Philips square).
Second - 70% - 80% in the first 2 - 3 years
Third - More than 50%
Fourth - These numbers were all just symbolic!
Fifth - This is spin?
BL - Wonder what your thoughts as a Moderator are! A contributor has been using the website for spin?
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