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I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.
I think BL was not suggesting that because they were spoken a long time back they are meaningless now....But if he did then he could just be right.
I am one who obviously doesnt think I need an entity like GOD or a BOOK to tell me whats right and wrong.
When someone does good (or bad) to me I can feel it immediately and I hope when I do the same The other person feels the same. I dont go and find out if it is a Correct or Moral thing to do.. Instinctively I feel it.
I know Its nok ok to prey on other peoples wives, not to help a person in need when you can, not to break a promise, not to enslave somebody etc.... Just because I know it will emotionally or physically hurt them because I know it from experience and not because its written somewhere.
Likewise, todays world has changed a lot from the time Moses parted the Red sea, so has the way people think.
Things are not absolute. they can change and they do change.
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I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.
Agree with Mercury...and people who insist that there is only one truth(god) for every individual may just be running the same risk as someone saying that someone elses beliefs are misplaced(or wrong or bad). Each of us gravitate to our own version of the truth(god)...wonder if we will ever reach the maturity to accept that everyones interpretation of GOD is different.
p.s: Just want to point out that buddhists(atleast most of them...except for, probably the Mahayana sect) do not believe in a GOD as such...so much so that it is considered(by some) an agnostic religion.
Anyways..
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Orginally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
Now my question is as follows :-
Hindus, to some extent Buddhists are what you would say "idolators".. While Buddhists believe in the oneness of Buddha (the Lord), Hindus have various beliefs (e.g., Vaishnavites, Shaivites, Hare Krishna, blah blah...330 million gods and goddesses).. So Ppl who do not believe in monoetheism are supposed to be condemned ?
I would say no but many others would say yes. I however respect the opinion of people who say 'yes' as long as I am not asked to say yes. I also think that anybody who insists that everybody else in the world HAS to say NO is just as mistaken.
I would love to see how this whole thread is actually going to help us 'understand the psyche of religions '.
I think we should tackle 'world peace' next
...then, since we'll have time left over, the 'meaning of life'.All the best.
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Orginally posted by Desi in Alberta
BL mentioned in that post that "these words were spoken hundreds of years back". Are you trying to suggest that they are no longer valid? If yes, I would just like to mention that these words (Holy Qur'an) are words of GOD and are very much valid in this century and future centuries till the end of time on this earth.
Maybe you didn't read the whole sentence, I would suggest you do. I said that it is a fact that these words were spoken hundreds of years back AND that it is upto individuals whether they factor that into their thinking of believe every letter with conviction. And I respect both.
As far as my personal beliefs go, no, I don't believe that these are words of God. Neither are the words from the Geeta nor the Bible. Some of what is said in our respective religions may represent the truth about God and life, but religion inspires me to think rather than follow without thought. Again, that's a very personal opinion and I accept that I may be wrong.
In most religions it is plain (for me) to see how human insecurites are played out. This whole point-based heaven and hell game is way too simplistic to support the mind-boggling complexity of every thing nature has created around me, I don't buy it.
I believe in God with absolute conviction, but not a vengeful one Who will send me to heaven or hell based on my petty mistakes, those sound like very human qualities to me.
I can elaborate on that later, don't have much time now.
The main point however is that I respect your right to believe that these are words of God so I hope you respect my right not to believe so.
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Dear BL,
Thanks for the clarification. I should have taken more care and read the whole statement before jumping to query you – apologies.
All,
Few years ago I had a discussion with an Arab gentleman who suggested that Ram and Krishna were also Prophets of God and they received revelations from HIM. He was referring to an article that appeared in the national Saudi newspaper – ‘Arab News’ which talked about Ram and Krishna being Prophets. It also said that Hindu God Bhramma is no different than Prophet Abraham – notice the similar sounding names.
Remember, GOD is most gracious and most merciful. HE will not put the believer in hell for petty mistakes – HE is oft forgiving.
“5: 70. Surely those who believed, and the Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians - whoso believes in ALLAH and the Last Day and does good deeds, on them shall come no fear, nor shall they grieve.”
“4:125. But whoso does good works, whether male or female, and he or she is a believer, such shall enter heaven, and shall not be wronged even as much as the little hollow in the back of a date-stone.”
Please note that being a “believer” is a very important condition. Nothing is complicated. There is no playing with our fear or emotions or insecurities. Having common sense and being alert to avoid doing sin is a very good quality. However, it is very easy to sin – just being alert does not help. In addition to being pious, we have to recognise who created us, for what purpose and where we are going after end of this short life.
Now it seems my task is to convince many of you that the Holy Books are indeed the Words of God. Coming soon!
Location: Ottawa (Now in Bangalore)
Posted on: 07-06-04 12:48:59
DIA
I still feel there are many contradictions and will continue to feel that way.
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Orginally posted by Ottawa_Nerd
Now my question is as follows :-
Hindus, to some extent Buddhists are what you would say "idolators".. While Buddhists believe in the oneness of Buddha (the Lord), Hindus have various beliefs (e.g., Vaishnavites, Shaivites, Hare Krishna, blah blah...330 million gods and goddesses).. So Ppl who do not believe in monoetheism are supposed to be condemned ?
Quotes from the Holy Al-Koran:
Sura3 : 85
And whoever seeks to pursue a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and he will be of the forfeited in the Hereafter.
Sura4 : 14
And those who defy Allah and His Messenger and transgress these limits, Allah will cast them into Hell wherein they will abide forever! For them awaits a humiliating castigation!
Sura4:56
Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise.
Sura5:10
And they who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are rightful owners of hell.
Sura6:39
Those who repudiate Our revelations are deaf and dumb and adrift in oblivion! Allah sends astray whom He will and guides on to the straight whom He will!
Sura8:12
When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Sura9:29
Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
I reserve my comments.
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