Islam: A German's View.


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vagg   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-04-10 22:29:57

I found this on another forum:

When Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%


At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris — car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam — Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%


After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

100% will usher in the peace of “Dar-es-Salaam” — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%Of course, that’s not the case.

To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.”Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-04-10 22:56:22

Quote:
Originally posted by JaiHo

Quote:
Originally posted by icecube

This guy above will never stop blabbering his humbug...A quote from the Holy Quran for people like these:

Khatama Allahu AAala quloobihim waAAala samAAihim waAAala absarihim ghishawatun walahum AAathabun AAatheemun


God has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and over their eyes is a veil; [7] and awesome suffering awaits them.



Hey, we are not here to listen to your obnoxious Quranic Verses. Reserve it for your Talibanic friends.
BTW, I am scared of that 'awesome suffering' ;-)


All this discussion about religion is fruitless. Islam has been recognized as Religion of Peace” . The question is how a a nation wants to adjust to realities that it will face in next 3 – 4 decades. There are a few ways in which a nation can respond.

1 China way: Just crush the opponents with brutal force. No arguments over right or wrong. However, China is autocracy and Democracies can never adopt China Model.

2. Indian way: India was ruled by Islam for at least 250 years. Hindu were brutalized and made second class citizens under Islam. The psychological impact has been so deeply ingrained that the people have never been able to come out of trauma. Indians now understand the inevitability of Islam again ruling them. Hindus still pay Jaziya tax (made most popular by Aurangzeb) and have accepted that Islam has first claim over national resources. There are quite a few areas in every state which are “no go” areas for police or law enforcement. Thus they have already tacitly accepted Islamic rule. Already many temples, especially in South India, are under government control and the donations from such temples are used to finance Madrasas.

It is a reality of Indian politics that Islam decides who come to power. When they ditched Lalu and Mulayam, they lost the power. In WB, CPM will soon lose power and Mamta will come to power with support of Islam. CPM will lose power in Kerala soon.

Islam is the smartest religion. Look at Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have slapped India time and again and now India has accepted that they will always terrorize India. Islam understands nuances of democracy and has adapted very efficiently.

In next four decades, Islam will have maximum people in age range of 20-45. They will dominate and capture large part of the world.

It is better to recognize this fact and start adapting rather than complaining otherwise there will be lot of energy spent without any concrete gain. The best example that I can give is of Dr. Subramanim Swamy who is still venting against Islam while his only child and beautiful daughter is happily married to a Muslim guy (Suhasini Haider). This may well happen with any of us. Statistics are loaded in favor of Islam and they will rule the world.




sant   
Member since: Apr 07
Posts: 352
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-04-10 23:01:04

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Quote:
Originally posted by JaiHo

Quote:
Originally posted by icecube

This guy above will never stop blabbering his humbug...A quote from the Holy Quran for people like these:

Khatama Allahu AAala quloobihim waAAala samAAihim waAAala absarihim ghishawatun walahum AAathabun AAatheemun


God has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and over their eyes is a veil; [7] and awesome suffering awaits them.



Hey, we are not here to listen to your obnoxious Quranic Verses. Reserve it for your Talibanic friends.
BTW, I am scared of that 'awesome suffering' ;-)


All this discussion about religion is fruitless. Islam has been recognized as Religion of Peace” . The question is how a a nation wants to adjust to realities that it will face in next 3 – 4 decades. There are a few ways in which a nation can respond.

1 China way: Just crush the opponents with brutal force. No arguments over right or wrong. However, China is autocracy and Democracies can never adopt China Model.

2. Indian way: India was ruled by Islam for at least 250 years. Hindu were brutalized and made second class citizens under Islam. The psychological impact has been so deeply ingrained that the people have never been able to come out of trauma. Indians now understand the inevitability of Islam again ruling them. Hindus still pay Jaziya tax (made most popular by Aurangzeb) and have accepted that Islam has first claim over national resources. There are quite a few areas in every state which are “no go” areas for police or law enforcement. Thus they have already tacitly accepted Islamic rule. Already many temples, especially in South India, are under government control and the donations from such temples are used to finance Madrasas.

It is a reality of Indian politics that Islam decides who come to power. When they ditched Lalu and Mulayam, they lost the power. In WB, CPM will soon lose power and Mamta will come to power with support of Islam. CPM will lose power in Kerala soon.

Islam is the smartest religion. Look at Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have slapped India time and again and now India has accepted that they will always terrorize India. Islam understands nuances of democracy and has adapted very efficiently.

In next four decades, Islam will have maximum people in age range of 20-45. They will dominate and capture large part of the world.

It is better to recognize this fact and start adapting rather than complaining otherwise there will be lot of energy spent without any concrete gain. The best example that I can give is of Dr. Subramanim Swamy who is still venting against Islam while his only child and beautiful daughter is happily married to a Muslim guy (Suhasini Haider). This may well happen with any of us. Statistics are loaded in favor of Islam and they will rule the world.





So you have already accepted islam ?



Nightmare   
Member since: Apr 06
Posts: 1170
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-04-10 23:06:48

Quote:
Originally posted by sant

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Quote:
Originally posted by JaiHo

Quote:
Originally posted by icecube

This guy above will never stop blabbering his humbug...A quote from the Holy Quran for people like these:

Khatama Allahu AAala quloobihim waAAala samAAihim waAAala absarihim ghishawatun walahum AAathabun AAatheemun


God has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and over their eyes is a veil; [7] and awesome suffering awaits them.



Hey, we are not here to listen to your obnoxious Quranic Verses. Reserve it for your Talibanic friends.
BTW, I am scared of that 'awesome suffering' ;-)


All this discussion about religion is fruitless. Islam has been recognized as Religion of Peace” . The question is how a a nation wants to adjust to realities that it will face in next 3 – 4 decades. There are a few ways in which a nation can respond.

1 China way: Just crush the opponents with brutal force. No arguments over right or wrong. However, China is autocracy and Democracies can never adopt China Model.

2. Indian way: India was ruled by Islam for at least 250 years. Hindu were brutalized and made second class citizens under Islam. The psychological impact has been so deeply ingrained that the people have never been able to come out of trauma. Indians now understand the inevitability of Islam again ruling them. Hindus still pay Jaziya tax (made most popular by Aurangzeb) and have accepted that Islam has first claim over national resources. There are quite a few areas in every state which are “no go” areas for police or law enforcement. Thus they have already tacitly accepted Islamic rule. Already many temples, especially in South India, are under government control and the donations from such temples are used to finance Madrasas.

It is a reality of Indian politics that Islam decides who come to power. When they ditched Lalu and Mulayam, they lost the power. In WB, CPM will soon lose power and Mamta will come to power with support of Islam. CPM will lose power in Kerala soon.

Islam is the smartest religion. Look at Pakistan and Bangladesh. They have slapped India time and again and now India has accepted that they will always terrorize India. Islam understands nuances of democracy and has adapted very efficiently.

In next four decades, Islam will have maximum people in age range of 20-45. They will dominate and capture large part of the world.

It is better to recognize this fact and start adapting rather than complaining otherwise there will be lot of energy spent without any concrete gain. The best example that I can give is of Dr. Subramanim Swamy who is still venting against Islam while his only child and beautiful daughter is happily married to a Muslim guy (Suhasini Haider). This may well happen with any of us. Statistics are loaded in favor of Islam and they will rule the world.





So you have already accepted islam ?



No. But I recognize the fact that they will be supreme in 30 to 40 years. Does not matter to me as I will be long dead by then.



desi-friend   
Member since: Jun 08
Posts: 237
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-04-10 04:48:57

Nightmare,
I appreciate your sense of humor, but don't agree with your exaggerated assessment.
Islam is the most hated religion as it is the only religion in conflict with all others. There is much more awareness in this age compared to the earlier times and no danger of it being a dominant religion.
So throw out your pessimism. ;)



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-04-10 05:12:19

Quote:
Originally posted by icecube

This guy above will never stop blabbering his humbug...A quote from the Holy Quran for people like these:

Khatama Allahu AAala quloobihim waAAala samAAihim waAAala absarihim ghishawatun walahum AAathabun AAatheemun


God has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and over their eyes is a veil; [7] and awesome suffering awaits them.



Reality bites eh ???

You have re enforced what I ve said that the Quran speaks more about people of other faiths or who do not believe in Allah than in preachings to its followers ...

A verse in Hindi by me for you :

Gurudev ... jara apne naqab / religion se bahaar aakar jhaanko .... duniya aur bhee hai !!!

As for Nightmare .... Lage raho Munna Bhai ( ya behen ) ....:clap: .... hum hoge kaamyaab chahe humen logon ke sar kaatne pade ............. ... we will succeed even if we behead others and yet be called a religion of peace .....

Please read this attitude identified and analyzed pragmatically in the interview posted on the first page of this thread .... for all those who have not already read ....


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-04-10 05:20:59

Quote:
Originally posted by desi-friend

Nightmare,
I appreciate your sense of humor, but don't agree with your exaggerated assessment.
Islam is the most hated religion as it is the only religion in conflict with all others. There is much more awareness in this age compared to the earlier times and no danger of it being a dominant religion.
So throw out your pessimism. ;)



Quite true and well said ........

Someone mentioned why nobody cares for the millions killed in Afghanistan ... thats why ............ nobody cares for you and you are a stigma living on earth ....

By the looks the world is changing Nightmare - your ambitions and wishes are far far from true .......... . if they were so self respecting why didn't they move to Pakistan ............. and now they are trying to puncture the very dish that has served them food & shelter for so long ............... shows your true self and colors ...... you have always mis treated others tolerance and good sense with your own in tolerance ............

Imagine 'FATWAS 'of killing or religious edicts being churned out against individuals just because they expressed their views ......... and yet its a religion of peace ........... What mockery ??

MF Husain got away without harm despite doing the most shameful acts ...... that speaks of the tolerance of other people ............. I wonder how you guys would have treated him had he done the same to your Prophet's mother ................

Would you have called it art then ???


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