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Posted on: 22-09-05 10:43:41
srgadgilin and Puru1
Here is another article that appeared in Toronto Star gaya saal mein.
http://www.canadianimmigrant.com/media_12.htm
Yeh above article bahut general hai aur itna dum bhi nahin hai. Agar yeh aadmi , who by name is ekdum Indian, can have his article published in Toronto Star, then srgadgilin can have his far superior walas published also.
Jinko writing power hai sab ko Toronto Star ke office ko inundate karna mangta with letters and articles on plight of immies. Also flooding gorement reps with same letters. Also like Puru suggesting, make memorandum and having it signed.
Kuch progress hua hai in that direction? Matlab regarding memorandum?
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hinglish zindabad
Hi srgadgilin,
Thanks for the good posting. It is possible when someone writes a lot about a particular issue, something could be here and there a bit inaccurate sometimes but the overall effort is always praiseworthy. I am glad you have used this forum to express your honest views which should not be criticised without ample and justified reasons. You have done a good job undoubtedly.
You must have read that we have planned to submit a memorandum to this federal government. This will be the first of its kind in Canada and for that the support of a large number of immigrants are needed to rock them in Ottawa. You may even call it a movement or crusade to protect our rights and dignity and that of our innocent families. The support gathering process is on. So be in touch to join the movement.
Regards
Puru
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Puru
I wonder any govt guarantee any jobs. Even own Indian Govt doest not guarantee any jobs. There are so many Doctors in India that I know few of them driving autos. Even engineers have no jobs. You can sit and blame the govt for not having enough jobs. You have to go where there is job. Move where there are jobs
I guess some people have the habit of blaming other. They will be ultimately losers in life.
Identify you weakness and grow out of it. Learn to be independent/interdependent rather than dependent
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Orginally posted by jayaram
I wonder any govt guarantee any jobs. Even own Indian Govt doest not guarantee any jobs. There are so many Doctors in India that I know few of them driving autos. Even engineers have no jobs. You can sit and blame the govt for not having enough jobs. You have to go where there is job. Move where there are jobs
I guess some people have the habit of blaming other. They will be ultimately losers in life.
Identify you weakness and grow out of it. Learn to be independent/interdependent rather than dependent
First of all we are not discussing India here. It is all about the illusionary "land of opportunities Canada." But just to reply you, in India even people without proper medical degrees ( Like RMPs and so on )are carrying on private practice in many places. Imagine the number of homeopaths in India. They do not drive autos. Whereas brain surgeons drive cabs in Canada. I would suggest not to use scattered examples of India to hide the bitter truth and real face of Canada because the two countries are dissimilar in various matters.
Lastly the fact these educated people with work experience are in Canada( away from their home country) proves that they already possess atleast some intelligence, smartness, self-confidence, enthusiasm, boldness and credibility.They are far away to be even called losers. I call them fighters and survivors. In the long run they will be the ultimate winners since life is a practically a long journey and there are miles to go. So keep watching!
I hope you agree that everyone has equal right to express oneself. Please do not pass your personal judgement about others. You are not forced to post or agree here.
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Puru
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Orginally posted by Puru1
I have also thought of that point which you have raised. The work permit program needs to be given more importance than the all-blank, nothing concrete immigration program. There is definitely a massive gap between the way of thinking & functioning of the private employers and the government. Thanks for your inputs which is definitely valuable. Visit this forum regularly to be updated about the developments.
THE POINT IS VERY VALID AND ANY GOVERNMENT WOULD SIT BACK AND TAKE NOTE OF THIS.However there is still an element of uncertainty in this, for as I have said in my article, this Government is NOT delivering schemes for the benefit of immigrants but for themselves ! If they were to call only as many professionals as the job market demands, how can they get the billions of dollars brought by many more aspiring immigrants? The harsh truth is that this Government has made a business of immigration without bothering about the trauma or consequences to the affected individuals.
I was once discussing this with a white Canadian doctor while I was in his clinic and with a lot of verbal cornering managed to get the truth out of his mouth
e said, "Gentleman, you are right.But few people can nail on as you have done.To put it bluntly, this country sucks! They are interested in your dollars and your children, but not you!The reason:Your children will grow up here and assimilate the cuilture hereI said,'And this country speaks of pride in multiculturalism? Shame!"
So basically they want the money flowing in and your bright kids since they feel the kids of educated parents will be bright...So get the brightest and best from around the world. Canada is not interested in you[first generation immigrants].They will not even offer any jobs.You sell off whatever you have back home, and if you ask for a job, you are a beggar and will be given to just keep you alive.Otherwise YOU invest money here and create jobs for our whites ! If you do well, fine, if not if your business fails, then again its no liabilitry for this Government.
You go to hell! They care a damn !
Maybe this sounds cynical.But I appreciate that you have taken up cudgels for this cause and wish you all success.
You might find in my article a mention about co-op jobs.A person does it without being paid a single penny! The government in an effort to really do something for the welfare of immigrants, could set aside a part of the funds to paying stipends to co-op persons on a say, 50% basis with industry, that is to say,both government and industry could share the stipend payment 50-50.Instead of having thousands of HRDC offices where they show you only how to make a resume to Canadian standards and have no other responsibility of placing you, a part of the funds could be better utilized in this manner.It would be a win win situation for all: The industry gets the man at a fairly economic price, the man himself is motivated because at least his day to day expenses are met and the Government can show a better performance of settling immigrants.
The current discussion leads me to remember what I read in Toronto Star a few months back.
This country can ill -afford to be arrogant and ask you to go back if you don't like it here.Can they return your wasted years of life, time and money? No.Then they have no moral right to make a sweeping statement like asking a person to go back if he doesn't like it here.Immigration here has been going on for over 50 years but Government never had the will to do anything then, too.The article went on further to say,"Canada:Promised land or stop-over?" It gave facts and figures as to how whole communities fed upand frustrated by the apathy of this Government went on to move to greener pastures, notably U.S.
The article also warned that since European countries like Spain and others are now opening up immigration due to their declining populations, a time will come when Canada will scramble for the brightest and best, but which will be too late since it will have earned enough of a bad name by then!
Shirish Gadgil,
Just for information, it is seeming from your posting that yeh do articles you have writing were meant for a newspaper yaan magazine. Were they ever published? If so, in which periodicals? If you can post link to kuch more credibility will be lent . You are to saying also many plenty peoples replying, kuch positive, kuch negative, meaning somewhere it must have been published yaan only on forums you are posting?
I am thinking gist of what you wanting to convey has come across ekdum mast, lakin some facts and figures may be needing corroboration. Lakin as Puru so rightly pointing out, those are small matters.
People saying to me CPA is Certified Public Accountant not Certified Professional Accountant, but this being small matter if posted in forum, but if to go in memorandum to gorement, sab kuch must be checked and double checked and aur ek baar checked to make assurance triply sure.
I am taking hats off to you and Puru, because some poorly performing immies are in ekdum dire need of Ralph Naders like you to taking up their cause.
Two thumbs way up!
May Asgaard and Mighty Odin be with you!
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hinglish zindabad
Hi srgadgilin,
Your postings are good with practical examples. But as you already know that successive Canadian governments in the past have done very little to none for improving the lot of immigrants. I think that their negligence gathered momentum especially after non-white people started arriving in bulk since 1970's while number of white immigrants (people who call themselves Canadians today)coming to Canada decreased.
The whole country is made up primarily of immigrants. The only difference is who arrived before others to take charge and dictate others.
Even our own people who arrived 15-20 years back consider their fellow countrymen from back home as aliens and treat them badly, trick them and humiliate them especially in the initial settlement days. So one can forget about expecting such unscrupulous people from trying to improve this stinky situation. Hence the acute need of a joint action by all such immigrants to be able to live here with prestige and moral values intact.
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Puru
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