A star immigrant gives up on Canada


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mercury6   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 14:33:03

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just to clarify...I meant the intensity to get out of their economic conditions(which are reflected in their environment).

Also there ere more whites indicted in white-collar crimes...not because blacks do not indulge in such crimes...but because many are not in a position to do so...due to history of slavery,racism etc etc.

About the NBA being predominantly black...true, a high protein diet over generations along with genetic disposition CAN result in physically bigger people. Couple this with economic adversity and a comparetively easier(for them) way to climb...and you can get an explanation. I wonder igf mike tyson OR mohammed ali would be much of boxers if they were reared up in privileged conditions.

Similarly, I dont think Chandresh ever had the desire or the oppportunity to be a boxer(I could be wrong :))



All of this maybe generally true of blacks.


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jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 14:35:41

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Orginally posted by mercury6


All of this maybe generally true of blacks.



push yourself a bit more and put the emphasis on maybe than 'generally true of blacks'. I know you can do it :D

Is it the same thing when you do?


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mercury6   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 14:39:32

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Orginally posted by jake3d


push yourself a bit more and put the emphasis on maybe than 'generally true of blacks'. I know you can do it :D

Is it the same thing when you do?



I added maybe just to be on the safe side. Who knows some black guy might find this forum and object to what I (or you said).


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jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 14:42:14

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Orginally posted by mercury6

I added maybe just to be on the safe side. Who knows some black guy might find this forum and object to what I (or you said).




regardless...one way of looking at it encourages streotypes and one way of looking at it does not.

ofcourse, its upto the individual to decide his own way. The older one gets...it *may* :D get more difficult.


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BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 16:42:33

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Orginally posted by chandresh

But what I am trying to say it that it is generalisations on which the world works - and should keep doing so - to keep a good balance, though not necessarily making everyone very happy in the society. As the generalisations change, so does the world.




Chandresh,

Would you feel the same way about the following generalizations

a) Indians are dirty people and smell like curry
b) South asians are mostly pagans
c) Indians live in slums and eat rats and snakes in their daily diet.

Do you agree? If not, why not to these?

To me, the above seem preposterous. Generalizations only seem favorable when one isn't at the receiving end.

A black guy who aspires to be a scientist would be infuriated to hear your opinion that he should either be doing a labor job, playing bball or rappin'.




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DiogenestheCynic   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 16:47:12

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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Would you feel the same way about the following generalizations

a) Indians are dirty people and smell like curry
b) South asians are mostly pagans
c) Indians live in slums and eat rats and snakes in their daily diet.

Do you agree? If not, why not to these?



a) Indians are dirty people and smell like curry
Don't agree because most don't. Some, in fact, do.

b) South asians are mostly pagans
Agree. Unless someone uses that term in a derogatory sense.

c) Indians live in slums and eat rats and snakes in their daily diet.
Don't agree because most don't. Some, in fact, do.

Generalization is a game of numbers.


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BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-05 17:30:44

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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic

a) Indians are dirty people and smell like curry
Don't agree because most don't. Some, in fact, do.




But my point is, that's your perspective of it. Someone who grew up on a ranch in Montana (pardon the generalization :D) may feel differently. Would you entertain the above comment as someone who's from India? I woudln't, I'd be happy to give someone a mouthful if someone ever said this to me.

So in that sense, when generalizations work for us, we're happy with them. But when they work against us, we're up in arms about it. And that's not consistent.


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