Did God create man or man create God ?

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hchheda
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Posted on: 16-10-15 10:33:08

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Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati

Meghal, extend that thought further. If by praying one can get things, why would a poor just ask for basic things? Everyone, including us, will start asking for wealth that is equal to Bill Gates. It is not like that. It is wrong to thinks that just by praying to god the poverty will go away. One has do his/her own karma to get things. The result can follow, but it is not in one's hand. It may or may not come.

I think you are contradicting yourself here.

Your following post explains what praying really does - but that is psychological effect, not a physical/material result.

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Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati

Prayers helps make one stronger and optimistic. In the difficult times, it helps to stay clam and god's proximity (or sense of) provides courage to pass the difficult times. During good times, though most people forget god, those remember him/her, makes them humble.

It is all experiment on our Mind. One can get joy by watching football game and thus remain fresh, or one can drink and remain fresh, the same way if one can get fresh by going to temple/mandir/church and remain fresh, it is understandable.

Yes, praying helps you tide over challenging times, thanking god (or any supernatural force you have faith in) in good times keeps you grounded/humble - but the results are per your efforts. Even after praying if you do not stand up and face the challenges, you will go deeper into trouble - only prayers or god will not help.

There is no harm in deriving strength due to faith on an unknown supernatural entity - but it does not mean that the entity exists.

Hiren

Fido
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Posted on: 16-10-15 11:32:38

That also explains why praying on different Gods or objects even has the same result ...

Someone prays on a book but denounces an idol whereas another denounces the book but prays on the stone ..... It is a matter of faith and belief whatever you wish to focus on .... for that reason one can focus on goodness and charity and that can become God for him by bringing him peace and fulfillment ...

That further takes us away from the 'existence of God physically' and strengthens the thought that it is more of a psychological existence than anything else.

And by the way , one can get rich or be happy or be successful without the help of God or believing in him !!

Do good and you would not need God to believe in ..Your goodness will be your God !!

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ramar2005
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Posted on: 16-10-15 12:00:29

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Originally posted by Fido

Do good and you would not need God to believe in ..Your goodness will be your God !!

Precisely what sensible believers too think.

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san-hugo
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Posted on: 16-10-15 13:55:37

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Originally posted by ramar2005

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Do good and you would not need God to believe in ..Your goodness will be your God !!

Precisely what sensible believers too think.

Then why they continue to be 'believers' ?

ramar2005
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Posted on: 17-10-15 00:01:52

For their own goodness

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