Canada or India?????
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| wat u wrote does not makes sense | 50% (7) |    |
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| India cud be an option | 14% (2) | |
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| u r dumb, come out of India | 21% (3) | |
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Posted on: 09-01-07 22:48:56
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Originally posted by Fido
Why is it that I never had this feeling before when in India ??
I am sure you had similar feelings - Like
Why is it that as a human being I cannot get drinking water and electricity 24 hrs a day.
Why is it that I cannot live in a less polluted environment?
Why is it that our courts and public libraries are not able to deliver what a normal human being is entitled to?
Why is it that like so many other persons in Canada I cannot get a clean life, good money, nice house, good neighbourhood, etc. etc. etc........
And all those feelings made you decide that you should leave your birthplace and migrate to Canada.
YOU WANTED A DIFFERENT LIFE - accept it.
Chandresh
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Quote:
Originally posted by desi in ottawa
Accept that u r a Canadian. Just by learning an indian language (for that matter even French is a language) or learning an Indian dance does not make u an Indian. U may disagree and argue. It does not matter at all. U r a Canadian and accept it.
So if you have got all the good manners, etiquettes, and life style of a developed nation, should you be told that ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE AN INDIAN and therefore a corrupt and uneducated and unethical, and immoral guy (the general impression that the world has about Indians)????
Chandresh
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Once Fido leapt into this discussion, I said to myself :
"
J3D will barge in and drag this to a meaningless discussion. When he does that i will use my "Bharmasutra" for the day to announce it to the forum/ thread
"
He did it exactly as i had thought.
TK A
Pot calling the kettle black!!!
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Chandresh
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I think this discussion is meaningless, and this topic has been dealt to death, .. but what the heck 
To the OP:
You have listed all the good things about going to India and are asking us why you can't go back. No reason. One can list all the great and not so great things about India as well as Canada, but at the end of the day, it is entirely your choice and depends on your individual circumstances and preferences.
Maybe it's me being skeptical, but are you really a 21 year old kid in your final year at the University?? If you really are, my apologies. Decide what suits you. All the best.
Digression (Sorry, couldn't help it 
):
As for 'Indianness', and DIO's comment to MR that she cannot be an Indian, it reminds me of a scene in the movie of Bruce Lee's life. Bruce Lee is in California, and is going to marry a white girl. He talks to the girl's mother who disapproves him for his ethnicity. He tells her that he is an American (he was born in America and hence a citizen by birth), to which she replies 'You may be an American citizen, but you can never be an American'.
There is no straightforward answer to who is an Indian or a Canadian. Is it based on passport? Ethnicity? Country of birth? To many locals, (read whites), I guess we will be 'East Indians' or 'Indo-Canadians', whether it is MR who was born here, or those of us who migrated here recently.
For a group of people who wants to be more in career, job, training, certification, switching companies and they feel that they can do better in India. It's good for them to live there. I know few guys who moved to India from USA just they think 24X7 only career, job and money.
For a group of people the job is part of life but other things are also important like services, clean air, clean water, hiking, biking, river rafting, tennis, hang out, traveling. For them western world is good.
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Originally posted by jughead
To many locals, (read whites), I guess we will be 'East Indians' or 'Indo-Canadians', whether it is MR who was born here, or those of us who migrated here recently.
Note: Digression for those who will see it as the same
. However, it is related to the 'alien' feeling that Fido described.About the above quoted statement...
Even if you are white and speak with an accent(say polish/italian etc) its a giveaway that one was not raised here.
I think skin color and racial features alone are no longer a guiding principle of ones nationality(except to the racist and/or ignorant) anymore. This is now true for most countries in the west.
I suspect, its the immigrant who is focussed on the difference(in a negative way) that feels it to be an issue and thus feels 'alien' or does not fit in.
I dont know if the generation that is raised here(and not reminded of the difference in their upbringing) feels the issue as much.eg: MR....maybe she'll shed light.
I know my kids do not feel it to be an issue. They see the difference ...eg: when my daughter mimics me she uses an indian accent....but its not an issue for them. They do not see the difference as being a negative attribute to their place in society.
They see many of their friends parents have accents too(be it french, polish, british, southamerican or Indian)
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Quote:
Originally posted by chandresh
Quote:
Originally posted by Fido
Why is it that I never had this feeling before when in India ??
I am sure you had similar feelings - Like
Why is it that as a human being I cannot get drinking water and electricity 24 hrs a day.
Why is it that I cannot live in a less polluted environment?
Why is it that our courts and public libraries are not able to deliver what a normal human being is entitled to?
Why is it that like so many other persons in Canada I cannot get a clean life, good money, nice house, good neighbourhood, etc. etc. etc........
And all those feelings made you decide that you should leave your birthplace and migrate to Canada.
YOU WANTED A DIFFERENT LIFE - accept it.
Chandresh
Precisely very much Chandresh ,
These were absolutely the reasons why I had made my mind to relocate from India ... Encountering bottlenecks at every stage and system ... prevalence of corruption in society , pitiable law and order and not to mention the 3ps - pollution , population and politics were enough to start searching for newer pastures .
Upon reaching Canada and conceiving it as settlement I am accosted with factors which had never figured relating largely to culture &, climatic variance former being more imposing .
Culture is something that becomes a part of our identity . We learn rights and wrongs by what our culture teaches us and get attuned to that. And when we are put in a different environment where the culture is not the same we face a values clash .
Pick an average cross section of an Indian city and of a Canadian city and you can see the difference -- both good and bad. Will I accept my daughter dating ?? Can I tell her its not correct .... by what I have learnt ...... Or will I have to re define the whole of what I am . In other words undergo an identity change ??? a big question .
Yes I agree that all the systems are much better here , the society also is more educated and civil .... but is it mine .... or can I be a part of it ?? Can I call it my own ??? Finally the perennial question -- Who am I ??
Am I living in someone else s house where despite all the comforts its still not belonging to me ?? Why dont I get the feeling of possessiveness .??
Or is it that like every first generation Immigrant I have to undergo this pain of a revolutionary change ??
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