Raising children in Canada - Good or Bad ?


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 17:56:22

Morning Rain,
I knew that Canada had a bad cultural setup while migrating. I had never migrated keeping in mind that my children will live and study in this country esp. between ages 6-18.
I also knew that it was scare to find a good job here but what i did not know was that it is scare to find a job here, and that too i did not know that well educated professionals will get only labour jobs here. The Canadian Govt./ Immigration site says that Canada does not discriminate but i find rampant discrimination here. What happens when the govt. does not do anything to protect the minorities. Are there any truely " Equal Oppertunity employers"?. Even aboriginals have been singled out in this great country.
24/365 means being able to go outside on all days of the year.
Medical treatment is horrible in Canada. I have already explained to you regarding this in other threads. By treatment , i mean the Quality and the Waiting times.
I belive even Vancouver has some months when you canot come out without a winter jacket. Children get sore breathing this cold air.
My Tamil culture does not allow any social evils like Dating, Drugs, Love marriage, Marriage outside your religion , Neglecting your parents / Spouses/ Children etc...
That is my culture and i am proud of it.
TK


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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 17:57:20

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Rahul Singh,
This is
what i said :
"Tamil culture is not :
1. father and mother educated professionally and doing labour job."

This differs from what you have understood and stated from me.

TK



TK: you forgot one.

Tamil culture is not: getting your own cup of coffee but having a "Peon" do it.

:D


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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 18:12:58

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Morning Rain,
I knew that Canada had a bad cultural setup while migrating. I had never migrated keeping in mind that my children will live and study in this country esp. between ages 6-18.
I also knew that it was scare to find a good job here but what i did not know was that it is scare to find a job here, and that too i did not know that well educated professionals will get only labour jobs here. The Canadian Govt./ Immigration site says that Canada does not discriminate but i find rampant discrimination here. What happens when the govt. does not do anything to protect the minorities. Are there any truely " Equal Oppertunity employers"?. Even aboriginals have been singled out in this great country.
24/365 means being able to go outside on all days of the year.
Medical treatment is horrible in Canada. I have already explained to you regarding this in other threads. By treatment , i mean the Quality and the Waiting times.
I belive even Vancouver has some months when you canot come out without a winter jacket. Children get sore breathing this cold air.
My Tamil culture does not allow any social evils like Dating, Drugs, Love marriage, Marriage outside your religion , Neglecting your parents / Spouses/ Children etc...
That is my culture and i am proud of it.
TK



There is nothing that is "bad". Thats a value judgement of your own. What is bad to you..is fine to the next person.

If a child is bundled up well they can go outside..almost every day of the year! Unless your child has a medical illness which keeps them fragile, they can be outside.

Vancouver has a couple of weeks at the most.
People do live here and thrive in the cold winters. Its not harmful as long as one takes the proper precautions in outerwear.

hmm... your description of social evils: "love marriage..marriage outside your religion..dating" makes me wonder: does this not happen in south india??


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picaso   
Member since: Apr 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 18:18:17

I knew that Canada had a bad cultural setup while migrating. I had never migrated keeping in mind that my children will live and study in this country esp. between ages 6-18.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

your kids are going to think the same when they grow up :D . They too will migrate to west one day, getting sick of corruption, pollution, diseases, etc. Right TK?



tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 18:22:06

Quote:
Originally posted by morning_rain

[TK: you forgot one.

Tamil culture is not: getting your own cup of coffee but having a "Peon" do it.

:D



MR,
I donot think it is a culture. The peon is educated to be a peon and he is paid for making me a cup of coffee.
While in Canadian terms, I pick up my own garage at office and hence in Canada i am a Labourer and Peon, but paid for being a labourer alone and a measly sum at that.
TK


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JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 19:06:44

Very interesting thread............

I tried to write something, erased, wrote again and erased.
The reason, I am not able to ponit to one specific place as the best, secured, promising by all means.

Do you think it is a good idea if we exchange our views which could help for the better life of our kids here.....

Couple of things come to my mind as something I could do to support our kid to reach new heights in their life if we have

- Reasonably paid job or a business,
- could allot personal time with kids,
- abstain from fighting with others in front of the kids (with family members),
friendly and be right when required,
- Be positive and encouraging, not to vent our frustration,
- Speak good things about the country you're from and the country you are living,
- Appreciate the native culture and culture of your new home,
- Not to defame other culture, nation, people or any sort, suggest HATE as a bad word,
- Point out the problems with Drugs and Teenage issues (I hope you guys understand) when they reach specific age,
- Research on Education investment, keep it open as far field is concerned, you never know whether the kid will like doing Medicine, Engg. etc., etc.,



From my view and based on my expecations, I found Canada (esp.., Toronto, GTA) is more appropriate for me to raise the child. This way I could help my child to learn good things with both the cultures (West and East), Pre-req to this is a reasonable financial support through your Job or Business.....Mmmm there could be some problems but I want to spend some time exploring how to face the problems. Moving out to a different nation is not my ultimate goal........ I've lived in US, I found it is Ok in its own kid to raise a kid if we're adaptible..
Same with Middle East and India...........
What hurts me is when I start comparing the school facilities in India with US while in India..Comparing US school facilities with India while in US.......

Practically, I feel the Parents are responsible to provide the basics to the Kids...Yes, it is the resopnsiblity. I don't want to assume the responsibility the ohter way as Parents get think sometimes..


I enrolled my Daughter in the US school and then in India for some time.. I found she is not doing great with academics but above average though. Where as I found her to be acting more like a Big picture person, keen observation, strong memory, and few other good positive things... I got to do some work to see how I could help her use her natural ability to excel in her life..

I wish (or some one who is willing) to collect good things about raising the kids in Canada, what can we do, how to help.. I am positive we will find lots of things as this thread matures.........

- JRF.


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Amit2006   
Member since: Mar 06
Posts: 21
Location: Toronto.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-06 19:18:21

Tamil Culture is entirely difft. from North Indian one. Tamils are basically more conservative, sentimental, preserve family values, not changed much in attitude with decades pass by.
But North Indian society has changed a lot with time, less family sentiments, more liberal and more materialistic.
These were my observations.




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