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Please stop posting to this thread.

YOU ARE BEING WATCHED and MONITORED.

Refrain from starting such a thread and posting to it.

TAKE CARE.

You have been well informed...

Full House.

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watched? By whom? for what?

If you are talking about Intelligence agencies, be assured that they have their hands full(in fact overflowing), monitoring the growing number of Jihadi fundamentalists/websites in Canada.

Please look at the comments section of renowned newspapers like Globe and Mail, National post, Toronto Sun etc to see how far freedom of speech can be safely stretched.

The only people who need to watch their backs are individuals who have sympathy for ISIS-like-behaviors and comments.

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Thanks FH.
Hope people take this seriously and contribute more to help Cd's rather than targeting a particular religion.
Hope the Moderators will take the clue and LOCK this thread.
Just as SCIWW (Read it backwards) shows as xxxxx , the name of that should also be shown as xxxx.

Moderators, please, Please note.

Murali The krishna

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How many times do we have fear Islamic phobia and treat as a forbidden hush hush taboo ....

We are not to discuss Islam and its consequence because you know those people are crazy and can do anything ...

Haven't you seen what they did to the soldiers ? Haven't you seen the beheading ? You don't want to be amongst them ..Do You ??

The first treatment of fearful things is to remove the fear of them .... For if we continue to fear them , they will scare us only more ....

OK you may bury your head like an ostrich but that does not mean that the senseless violence stops...Today it is others , tomorrow , it may be you & I ... Even if it is not we should stand up for the innocents who are being killed , beheaded , abducted , converted by force for religious avoidable reasons.

The least we can do is voice genuine concern for them and garner support so that they know what they are doing is wrong and that if they don't stop it , there are people who will oppose it vehemently.

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Originally posted by Full House

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Originally posted by Rajagopal

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Originally posted by Full House


Please stop posting to this thread.

YOU ARE BEING WATCHED and MONITORED.

Refrain from starting such a thread and posting to it.

TAKE CARE.

You have been well informed...

Full House.

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watched? By whom? for what?

If you are talking about Intelligence agencies, be assured that they have their hands full(in fact overflowing), monitoring the growing number of Jihadi fundamentalists/websites in Canada.

Please look at the comments section of renowned newspapers like Globe and Mail, National post, Toronto Sun etc to see how far freedom of speech can be safely stretched.

The only people who need to watch their backs are individuals who have sympathy for ISIS-like-behaviors and comments.

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NOTHING WRONG IN BEING CAUTIOUS... No one will come back to tell us that they got NABBED...!!

From reliable sources I have come to know that some of the postings here on this website, The Canadian Desi, have been looked into and monitored for reasons unknown. Hence a note of caution to those who are posting to a few threads, to make their statements brief and to the point of view to convey exact to what they really want to post.

Few of the others who post just to increase their posting counts, are exempt; and those who are posting from abroad need not worry for now.

So, when the postings deviate from the required point of view and meanders into regions where it gets murky, I want them to be very careful and not attract the attention of a few who should not be here watching us here. I for one do not want to post other than this NOTE and request that they stay the course.

Your back is yours. IXIX -IXIL has not entered this post here and hence and so there is NO slippage none what so ever has occurred here.

The laws are changing as we discuss this topic. Freedom of speech is just that. Speak all you want and make sure that it is not recorded. Now they are taking it to a level where in the postings from the past are being searched to see what their intent was and their state of mind was. The search is expanded due to this and a wide net is spread to catch a few and I for one do not know who that is that they are looking for.

I hate to see some one make a slip and rest of us are made to pay for it.

Hence a word of Caution ONCE Again.

You have been well informed.


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Now we all know TK could be bribed with a good Muslim made Biryani. Never knew that. Quite cheap too. I wish all the Indian bureaucrats and politicians were like TK. Then common people would not have been complaining about corruption.

There is TONS of material on internet with large number of theories as to whether Islam is a religion of peace, whether all the muslims should be put in one basket and why some muslims have been radicalized. I guess common people are smart and know the truth.

Some of my friends in India and in Canada are muslims. Just to give one example. I have this Pakistani Muslim friend whose kids are extraordinarily brilliant and smart. He is quite religious muslim and observes most religious customs. He told me that he does not send his kids to mosque but imparts lesson of Koran himself. He told me that he does not trust whether his kids would get correct message and right perspective of Koran from a Mulla. In his opinion, many a times these people are not enlightened or educated and he does not wat his kids to be radicalized. He feels that he is the right guy to impart lessons and laments violence in name of Islam. I wish there were many more parents like him who could think independently.

I have couple of tests that I apply on people who claim to be secularist. When I do that, I enjoy the discomfiture of those “secularists”.

I usually in a casual tone bring up M.F.Hussain. The enthusiastic secularist would start with the greatness of that artist. If I have time, I probe a bit more. For example, I have 5 pictures done by Modern artists(not Hussain) on my cell phone (which re essentially meaningless mixture of some wild colors and contours. Lol!). Then I sympathise that M.F>. had to run away from India and die in wilderness in a gulf country and that MMS/Sonia could have done something more and that artistic freedom is supreme and should be respected. Most secularist, in my opinion, are brainless creatures and have formed their opinion reading morons like Pankaj Mishra and his ilk. I would then state that MF drew a very large number of drawings depicting Hindu Goddesses in a various state of undress or naked. I would say that for a true believer in freedom of expression, I would not object to that. Again most secularists would emphatically nod in agreement. Having established that position, I would ask their opinion about Mohammed Cartoons and whether they would support its publication in the interest of freedom of expression. That is the point real fun starts the way they will start squirming and givimg some silly reasons for not publishing the same. Lol!

Again, just praise Narendra Modi and if the other person reacts in hostile way, you would know whether that person is a person of reason or blinded by ideology.

Hey thanks, I found that it is ME that they are looking for and monitoring here. So, I will stop posting to such threads. You guys can now post anything as you wish.

You think that I should pull all my postings from here? NAW.... I will let it ride. Wait till they ask the moderator who that freaking FH is??!!

My goose is cooked, with mash, cranberry sauce, stuffing, Mmmmm, carrots, peas and sweet peaches and cream corn, plus green beans with garlick and butter sauce with fresh hot rolls and biscuits. I am going to install a fireman's pole from the upstairs bedroom for an emergency exit and keep a few packs of RUNOUT Powder handy. (Is it Seidlitz?)

BRRR I am scared.


FH.

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Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney has tabled a bill in the House of Commons today to expand the powers of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Canada's spy agency.

Bill C-44, dubbed the protection of Canada from terrorists act, was expected to be introduced last week before a gunman launched an attack in the capital.

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"This bill is bringing clarity into the CSIS Act while protecting individual rights," Blaney told reporters in Ottawa after he tabled the bill on Monday.

The proposed legislation amends the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act, as well as the Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act and makes a consequential amendment to the Access to Information Act.

Bill C-44, as CBC News reported earlier, amends the Canadian Security Intelligence Service Act to:

Give CSIS more powers of surveillance "to more effectively investigate threats to the security of Canada."
Give Canada's spy agency explicit authority to operate "within or outside Canada." This would allow the agency to share information on suspected Canadian terrorists abroad with members of the so-called "Five Eyes" group of countries — namely the U.S., U.K., Australia and New Zealand.

Give "greater protection" to confidential sources without having to identify them in court proceedings, even to the judge.

The proposed bill would also:

Allow for some exceptions, including disclosure of informants' identities "if the human source and the [CSIS] director consent to the disclosure of that information." The bill lays out the process by which a judge could order that an exception be made.

Make it an offence to divulge any information that would lead to the disclosure of the identity of a CSIS employee "who was, is or is likely to become engaged in covert operational activities."

More anti-terrorism measures coming

Today's proposed legislation has not been altered following Wednesday's assault on the National War Memorial and Parliament's Centre Block, CBC News has learned.

The ultimate goal of the bill is to give authorities greater power to deal with some of the Canadians already on a watch list who are considered most dangerous, sources say.

The Opposition New Democrats said they would take the time needed to study the bill but expressed some preliminary concerns around the effect the changes could have on "judicial proceedings."

"We are also interested in what steps the government will be taking to partner with communities to combat radicalization — something that we have been asking for action on for weeks," said Randall Garrison, NDP public safety critic, in a written statement to CBC News following the tabling of the bill.

Wayne Easter, the public safety and national security critic for the Liberals, said the government hasn't made the case for why Canada's spy agency needs more powers.

"The government has an obligation to explain how existing laws are being used or not used," Easter told CBC News in a telephone interview Monday.

Easter, who has been pushing for stronger parliamentary oversight of Canada's intelligence agencies, said he is wary of what provisions a second anti-terror bill might contain.

''We will not overreact. But it is also time that we stop under-reacting to the great threats against us.'—Steven Blaney, public safety minister

Blaney told the Commons on Monday that it is important for new public safety legislation not to be an overreaction to events such as the attacks in Ottawa and Quebec last week, but it is equally important for the Canadian government not to under-react to threats.

"The first responsibility of the government is to keep Canadians safe.

"We will not overreact. But it is also time that we stop under-reacting to the great threats against us," Blaney said during question period on Monday.

In addition to today's CSIS bill, Blaney said the federal government will also introduce further anti-terrorism measures.

"Further reforms to protect Canadians from terrorism will be presented in a second forthcoming piece of legislation," Blaney said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-powers-beefed-up-under-new-bill-tabled-by-steven-blaney-1.2814314

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PERSECUTED sounds better. Prosecuted?? NAW.
* FIDO Make it "INTIMIDATED" Sounds forceful. Thanks.

FH :

I agree with all you say and am in support of more Government /Authorities vigilance in this regard as that acts as a deterring measure to such terrorist activities .

But that does not apply here ..Here we are not discussing abetting terrorism but on the converse , shunning it and finding what & why the religion radicalizes .

What is the root cause and are there any solutions to this virus which kills people around the world needlessly in the name of religion .

We all know how is it happening .... The q remains - why is it happening or why has it happened in the past ?

For if we are able to figure out that WHY may be , may be we know how to stop it in future or at least take safeguards against similar happenings ....

Why do non believers or what ever they call them prosecuted ?

Don't the non believers have a right to independence or equal rights ?

Why engage violence against them in a bid to crush others and try to dominate ....

I recall Egypt leader's Sisi's statement before he imprisoned Morsi - 'Either you will convert us or kill us ' ....... and he dealt with them with a heavy hand which has brought some peace in that country ....

China is trying to deal with them with a heavy hand as is Russia ....

The non communist world which proliferates on independence and freedom needs to ( and is ) standing against this barbarism .....

WE WILL NOT BE INTIMATED ... WHATEVER BE THE PRICE !!

And yes there s going to be a price ... a price we will have to pay to prevent this rabies from spreading ...And its high time we oppose and voice what is wrong and CALL A SPADE A SPADE !!

I shudder to think the plight of the Yazidis who have been bull dozed and slaughtered just for being non nuslims .............. If this is what Islam teaches , then we have to oppose it !!!

And if this what Islam does not teach then all the other Muslims (including our Dear Tungrus ) should oppose it and condemn the actions of ISIL rather than saying that they cannon comment on ISIL ...

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