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Posted on: 06-05-11 23:47:14
I absolutely agree that unions should be “smashed” but if you think that conservatives would do that, you are sadly mistaken. Union jobs in Canada are meant for white workers. It is next to impossible for the first generation immigrant to get a good union job. While I agree that NDP and Liberals have screwed up and they also did not do much to grant access to public sector job, of late there was a conscious effort to include immigrants at lower levels ( I am part of the public sector and hence know this first hand).However, conservatives have antipathy towards immigrants and would reverse whatever little initiative was taken by Liberals.
Real reform like open competition, i.e. initial competitive exam for any position is the solution which would NEVER be implemented by Harper. Statistics say that more than 30% jobs in Canada are in public sector and many of these jobs are filled with reference (read Nepotism). It is huge waste of taxpayer money. Now that Harper has majority, forget about public sector jobs for next four years.
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Originally posted by Nightmare
I absolutely agree that unions should be “smashed” but if you think that conservatives would do that, you are sadly mistaken. Union jobs in Canada are meant for white workers. It is next to impossible for the first generation immigrant to get a good union job. While I agree that NDP and Liberals have screwed up and they also did not do much to grant access to public sector job, of late there was a conscious effort to include immigrants at lower levels ( I am part of the public sector and hence know this first hand).However, conservatives have antipathy towards immigrants and would reverse whatever little initiative was taken by Liberals.
Real reform like open competition, i.e. initial competitive exam for any position is the solution which would NEVER be implemented by Harper. Statistics say that more than 30% jobs in Canada are in public sector and many of these jobs are filled with reference (read Nepotism). It is huge waste of taxpayer money. Now that Harper has majority, forget about public sector jobs for next four years.
Do you think if liberals or NDP had won the election there would be galore of public sector jobs for the first generation immigrants. I am working in the public sector for last 7 years and part of the labor union and I know how these jobs work. Yes we do get security of jobs but the union works hand in hand with the managerial staff and they do what they are expected to do. KISS ASS (mind my language). I am in the system and I know very well and oh yes I am first generation immigrant.
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Quote:sanchita has already proven by personal experience what i was about to say.
Originally posted by Nightmare
I absolutely agree that unions should be “smashed” but if you think that conservatives would do that, you are sadly mistaken. Union jobs in Canada are meant for white workers.
you are also correct that I do not expect the conservatives to change the public sector job allocation fundamentally even though i have obviosuly been supporting them.
but I do believe that given their stated position to limit the growth of the public sector, reduced govt. spending, and not replace several retiring positions (which Harper was very clear on during the campaign) i believe there will be longer term benefit.
see, if the NDP or the Libs were running Ottawa, nothing will change fundamentally for immigrants, as sanchita correctly said.
what will happen is that the number of public sector jobs will double and triple and immigrants will not get any of those (or very few).
given the generous benefits that these govt. babus get in Canada, it will drain the public finances.
taxes will increase, and the income disparity between private sector and public sector will increase further.
StatsCan 2010 survery proves that only 25% of the working canadian population of all ages have a defined benefit pension plan.
in other words, 75% of workers to not have a pension.
also, among those 25%, some are in the private sector companies that still offer DBP like some financial institutions, utilities, manufacturing etc.
those pension are not like public sector ones because they are often underfunded (sometimes by as much as 20% or more), are often not indexed and are obviously not guaranteed (as the Nortel employees found out).
therefore the workforce with true guarnateed, indexed and fully funded pensions are probably only about 15% of the working population.
now...the ironical part is that those 15% are able to have this luxury on the backs of the other 85%...it is the huge taxes that all of us pay every year that funds this luxury for the public sector workers.
this is a huge disparity.
no political party has the balls to smash these benefits or even reduce them.
therefore, the only party that claims to reduce overall public sector (in terms of workers as well as % of GDP) can hope to narrow this big gap.
and the Conservative Party is the only such party.
the other great thing the CP is doing is smashing the dominance of Ontario and Quebec in Canadian politics and finally paid some attention to the needs and aspirations of central and western canada.
in particular Quebec has been living off the backs of the other provinces for decades now.
as a contributor to the overall Canadian economy, Quebec sucks big time.
i'm glad the hegemony of the terrorist Bloc is broken now.
anyway coming back to the issue of public sector jobs and benefits : nothing will change fundamentally for immigrants.
but by reducing the # of workers in the public sector we can hope to narrow the disparity between the benefits of private vs. public sector and hopefully experience lower taxes in the future.
You seem to have great hopes from Harper. I guess what you do not realize is that they are not “Tea Party” type of people who are passionate about free market economy or concerned really about the deficit. Harper is no Ronald Reagan. What you have written sounds fine but in practice that has never happened in Canada. Just go through the past practises of Conservatives in Canada including track record of the finance minister in Ontario ministry. Canada is no America and here the share of taxpayer-funded jobs is not going to reduce. Only time can tell the difference and hence I guess it is futile to argue here with you. My point is still valid, if you are prepared to ponder for a moment. Assuming Harper reduces number of public sector jobs, it is still not going to help immigrants, as there is no fairness in the entire process. While I understand that private sector can and does appoint people with “reference”, there is no transparency in most taxpayer-funded jobs. Try to get in to OPG. Based on my experience, I can say that even the lower level jobs would not be opened up now under conservatives. The guy is prepared to spend $30 Billion + cost over runs on airplanes but would not help immigrants. No point in discussing till next couple of years. However, on educated guess I can tell that level of unemployment/underemployment amongst immigrants would increase and gap between poor and rich also would increase. Racist party can never help us.
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Originally posted by Nightmare
Assuming Harper reduces number of public sector jobs, it is still not going to help immigrants, as there is no fairness in the entire process. While I understand that private sector can and does appoint people with “reference”, there is no transparency in most taxpayer-funded jobs. Try to get in to OPG. Based on my experience, I can say that even the lower level jobs would not be opened up now under conservatives. The guy is prepared to spend $30 Billion + cost over runs on airplanes but would not help immigrants. No point in discussing till next couple of years. However, on educated guess I can tell that level of unemployment/underemployment amongst immigrants would increase and gap between poor and rich also would increase. Racist party can never help us.
Which employer gives Desi's/brown skinned the employment he/she deserves? I work for a firm 70% owned by a Desi... but most top posts are given for non-Desis... <10% of top and >50% of bottom half are desi's (close to 90% of bottom half is Asian origin!!)!! It's a sad truth....
I absolutely agree that most Desi makes the worst kind of employer or supervisor. My point is different. A private sector person has his freedom to hire and fire people. However, when it comes to taxpayer-funded jobs, it MUST be fair which is not the case in Canada. With a party of whites, there are now no hopes.
you are right nightmare, i agree.
i have high hopes from Harper given his background of the Reform Party and his association with Preston Manning.
it is unfortunate, in my opinion, that Harper had to merge with the PCs to get the votes from Ontario and Quebec.
the Reform Party came very close but never made it because of the resistence from Ontario and the separatist Quebec.
it is the Reform Party type policy platform that we need.
essentially all we need is a Mike Harris type governing.
it is encouraging that the finance minister Jim Flaherty was part of the Mike Harris cabinet as well.
i think Harper combined with Flaherty in a majority govt. can make a big difference.
of course there will be opposition and resistence to change.
it remains to be seen exactly what if anything they can achieve.
but the situation that exists now with the overbearing and unfair public sector is bad.
only a small section of the working population (less than 15%) enjoy good benefits by exploiting the rest.
our taxes go on increasing every year and it keeps funding the luxurious and obnoxious pay and benefits of the public sector.
if anybody can change even one bit, it is this party and this govt.
