My success story by God is Great!
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Posted on: 20-11-04 01:39:38
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
Sorry, I can't seem to be able to get this fairy tale out of my head! I am mesmerized!! Hypnotized!!
Just some more questions:
1. GiG mentions that when he and his family landed they shared an "apartment with 3 families."
Just asking! I don't know. Does this really happen? I mean THREE FAMILIES in a 2 BR apartment?? Anyone else did the same??
2. GiG says -" They have MBO’s in Management and I gave myself a month".
What is MBO??
He "gave" himself a month for what?? To get a job? And what does that mean actually? Like what did he tell himself - "I will get a job within a month else I will.....?
Master of Business Operations, just guessing.
I see GiG has replied to his original thread with "top notch" thing. Why not say it out loud. If I was from one I would shout it out loud (not like desimisri though
).There are other stuff that reeks of you know what....
Multiple IDs and a decoy thread.....now dont even ask me what that means.....
Have a nice weekend all. I am sure we will be back at it Monday morning....
Till Then I am doing some reasearch on Ireland.
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
What is MBO??
MBO stands for Managment By Objectives. It is a standard and quite well ued acronym - the MBO concept can be located in any basic text book on Management.
Regards
Daks
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If that kind of success had a formula like "qualified, educated permenant resident of this country who pays his taxes, obeys laws and contributes to the community ", then... sure...we all deserve to be there. Is that entitlement mentality a part of our problem?
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First of all after going through my post again I admit that it reeks of entitlement. Nobody nowhere is entitled to a decent job and standard of life regardless of qualifications and experience.
As to the other comments
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Note that the success that you are talking about(including the house in Rosedale) is elusive even to *native* Canadian. So it takes an above average immigrant to be able to make it till there. Average people have average aspirations(immigrant or otherwise). Most *native* canadians, I know are those who are happy in a job in their field and call themselves successful.
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I would say that an unusually high number of skilled immigrants are above average at what they do. Still the rate of success of above average immigrants is well below the rate of above average "native " Canadian. Even after they get into the workforce the percentage of immigrants in higher positions is abysmally low.
For a comparision of how well skilled immigrants are doing in a similar setting you just have to look south of the border.
In the final analysis, I guess a large portion of the blame rests on the immigrant who comes into this country unprepared and the high expectations immigrants have from this country. But by posting success stories which have more fluff than substance CD is doing more harm than good to help the cause of immigrants.
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Orginally posted by my2cents
I would say that an unusually high number of skilled immigrants are above average at what they do. Still the rate of success of above average immigrants is well below the rate of above average "native " Canadian. Even after they get into the workforce the percentage of immigrants in higher positions is abysmally low.
For a comparision of how well skilled immigrants are doing in a similar setting you just have to look south of the border.
I agree with part of your final analysis.
About the above...that is one way of looking at it. I'd like to think that most of the above average immigrants are already in the jobs of their choosing and slowly moving to that house in Rosedale
. The rest are still in the process of proving that they are above average here as they were where they came from. That they are above average not only in their skillset but also their outlook on life. Its easy to be +ve when things are going your way. About the south of the border scenario...most desi's are in the US after securing employment. The same as in Montreal. A desi would not come here without employment. I do not know a single desi here who is not working in the field he is trained to be in. They are also in the the choicest of industries : aerospace, academia, research, IT etc. Most of them have been here for over 5 yrs and doing very well AND in good positions. Last weekend I was talking to a family friend who is pulling together 2mil to produce a low budget crossover movie (a la 'bend it like Beckham').
I tend to agree that employers south of the border are not as conservative in their hiring practices as Canadian employers. However, this should not matter to people who consider themselves above average.
Like I said in another post the major problem most people have is not their skills/experience but their ability to market the same. I say this through personal experiences. My problems were never lack of ability or training but lack of marketing skills to sell these abilities.
In other words :
above average skill+above average marketing abilities= better chances of success. The marketing facet does not end once you get your foot in the door. It has to continue through out your career.
Unlike most others, I do not see immigrants(especially the skilled labour category) as needy or helpless. I like to consider them above average...the kind who can help themselves. If they are going through tough times the +ve stories should help them tide over. The average/ below average ones(if there are any) should similarly learn from the negative stories and stay where they are comfortable. Both sides have their place.
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Friends,
There is an old adage “The dogs bark while the caravan moves .” The feeling is the same here. I never realized that a success story like this one could generate furor. Not that I want to cast any aspersions or malign anyone, but the sordid fact is that when someone mentions the very word success, there are those few who are unwilling to accept that word.
Well, does it matter to me? Of course not! If it is Text book or a fairy tale, so be it. Why should I be bothered about it? Not that I have spent my valuable time writing in a fairy tale to gain attention. Neither do I need any adulations from anyone.
However it is indeed disheartening to note that instead of benefiting out of a story like this one, a few are keen to nitpick the flaws in the story!! I stand by my story but I have my own reasons to remain incognito.
As far as my friend jago-desi is concerned, you know that there is software called as Supervoice – wherein you can send a fax from your computer – no matter what time of the day it is!! You need not have a fax machine. All what you need is a telephone connection.
Adios amigos.
PS:
My sincere thanks to BL, MI and J3D for trying to get some semblance on the matter.
Shame on all the cry babies in this post
With such attitude , no wonder they are all losers in canada
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Orginally posted by Daks
MBO stands for Managment By Objectives. It is a standard and quite well ued acronym - the MBO concept can be located in any basic text book on Management.
Daks
From what you are saying, MBO is a strategy, a method, a style of management, right?? How does that meaning fit into the following sentence:
"They have MBO’s in Management"???
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