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chandresh   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 2606
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-03-06 12:29:36

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Originally posted by tamilkuravan

He is famous/rich just by his contacts and not by his professional education or professional work. He is a businessman.



It is an age old phenomenon that the uneducated/less educated become businessmen, and the educated become Employees (for the businessman they are the labour - whatever the world might call them).

An educated person has a lot to lose and is therefore afraid of trying to leave his comfort zone of employment - while those who are less educated, have nothing to lose and they have to do out of the ordinary to survive - and by doing that, they become entreprenuers.

That is what MY belief is - and it is not a side note


Chandresh


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-03-06 12:58:09

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Originally posted by chandresh


Would like to see a story from a person who had achieved success or placed highly in India/Gulf/South east asia or even East europe, and was in fields like Finance/Accounting/Marketing/Economics/Banking/Pharmacy/Arts/etc., and got success here in Canada.

Chandresh



what about moi :)....arts/animation ? Nationally telecast in Canada. My work will also be telecast on much music and MTV/VH1 in India in April. I'm a BA... for those that like to know and think its important. Also very gainfully employed as a senior animator/3d Artist (UNSOLICITED job offer from the owner of the current company).


<Note:Editing out stuff due to wifes need for privacy>

I want to encourage those who can look beyond the personal frustrations that are posted on this site. To those people...focus on who you can be not what is currently happenning around you! Dont think small! The more you think Canadian opportunities are limited...the more of a reality it will become!!!

The more you try to convince others of the limited opportunities and seek out people with that kind of attitude, I assure you, your chances of success will keep shrinking!

Do NOT be your own worst enemy! Let the opportunites come to you! They will!!!



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chandresh   
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Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-03-06 13:15:05

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Originally posted by jake3d


what about moi :)....arts/animation ? Nationally telecast in Canada. My work will also be telecast on much music and MTV/VH1 in India in April. I'm a BA... for those that like to know and think its important. Also very gainfully employed as a senior animator/3d Artist (UNSOLICITED job offer from the owner of the current company).





Jake, you would hopefully recall that when we started this section in 2004 I think, YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON requested by the mods (via me) to write your story in this section - and at that time you had refused!

I wish you would one day write in detail - I know a bit of it, but would still like to hear more!

And by the way, congratulations on your wife's new ventures - though I am sad to know her business has reached a ceiling.........I was hoping to be employed by her one day....!!!

Chandresh


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lana2005   
Member since: Feb 06
Posts: 545
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-03-06 13:23:49

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Originally posted by chandresh

And this one is for Lana - you have first hand experience of a successful and very highly educated and well placed person (before coming to canada) struggling with temp jobs of clerical nature - though you have been here for 5 years - while you yourself had to change your main profession from Finance to IT and got success only then. Would you like to say something about that - how do you see the glass in that scenario???

Chandresh



I usually see the glass as half full. Though, I admit I had no clue what to expect in Canada. We did visit Canada on a visit and I stayed here for 2 months before getting my "Landed Immigrant status"

I was plain lucky as the timing of my migration was right. IT was very hot before Y2K. I was able to make a career change from Finance to IT. Let me tell you, it was not easy. New country, new culture, new career in which you have zero experience. I have worked like crazy. I would work Monday to Friday. Saturday and Sunday on my personal time, I would study what my job required to do for the next week. And I was living alone in Canada as me and my husband decided that I will go to Canada and find a job while he was working in ME. When I got the job, he left his job and joined me. So at all the times one of us was working. So there were days when I had to study on weekedns and did not have time to buy food/groceries for the week. The only thing that got me thru this was that this phase is temporary. Worst of all, our life was very very comfortable in ME with Europe vacations every year. We gave it all up to come to Canada.



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-03-06 13:27:32

Quote:
Originally posted by chandresh


Jake, you would hopefully recall that when we started this section in 2004 I think, YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON requested by the mods (via me) to write your story in this section - and at that time you had refused!

I wish you would one day write in detail - I know a bit of it, but would still like to hear more!



I will someday. It will probably be a newspaper link :) . Until then please bear with me.


Quote:
Originally posted by chandresh
And by the way, congratulations on your wife's new ventures - though I am sad to know her business has reached a ceiling.........I was hoping to be employed by her one day....!!!

Chandresh



me too :). She decided that now that the kids are not as dependent on her as when they were toddlers, she can make more $ working. She has not worked in an office environment in Canada...and missed the social part of it (from working mostly in isolation on her home-biz).
The strategy now is for me to ramp up my own business while we continue to live well beneath our means, as we always have. That's another tip that has helped us so far...thus I want to make a mention of it here.


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-04-06 23:10:55

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d
what about moi :)....arts/animation ? Nationally telecast in Canada. My work will also be telecast on much music and MTV/VH1 in India in April. I'm a BA... for those that like to know and think its important. Also very gainfully employed as a senior animator/3d Artist (UNSOLICITED job offer from the owner of the current company).
I want to encourage those who can look beyond the personal frustrations that are posted on this site. To those people...focus on who you can be not what is currently happenning around you! Dont think small! The more you think Canadian opportunities are limited...the more of a reality it will become!!!
The more you try to convince others of the limited opportunities and seek out people with that kind of attitude, I assure you, your chances of success will keep shrinking!
Do NOT be your own worst enemy! Let the opportunites come to you! They will!!!


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Jake,
First of all let me congratulate you and your wife on both of your sucess in Canada. I hope / wish / pray that you will reach even more greater heights.
While i always wish / hope/ pray that each and every sucessful immigrant makes it big in this country, it is always not so. I am happy for the sucessful people and unhappy for the unsucessful one.
Let me give you an example. When sone one is recruited for a job to middle east/ Malaysia/Singapore etc.. that individual is assured of a good job. May be some may not like the job but atleast they get the money they wished for. But immigration to Canada is not like this . Statistics/ Govt. etc.. say that there are jobs here while there are NOT. And even if there are desi's seldom get those ones (IT apart). Yes . there are sucessful cases by how many? what percentage. I feel that even if 10% of immigrants donot get the jobs that they were qualifies then Canadian Immigration (as advertised by the govt.) is a scam. if you are in a good job , how many people of desi origin that you know are suffering. Sucess is not measured just on your job but it is also measured by the fact whether all the desi's that you know are in good jobs.
In my experience (apart from IT) 90% of all desi's that i have seen are in labour jobs.
Anyways, this is just my view and please let no one take it as a personal insult.
TK


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-04-06 23:20:52

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

I am happy for the sucessful people and unhappy for the unsucessful one.
Let me give you an example. When sone one is recruited for a job to middle east/ Malaysia/Singapore etc.. that individual is assured of a good job. May be some may not like the job but atleast they get the money they wished for. But immigration to Canada is not like this . Statistics/ Govt. etc.. say that there are jobs here while there are NOT. And even if there are desi's seldom get those ones (IT apart). Yes . there are sucessful cases by how many? what percentage. I feel that even if 10% of immigrants donot get the jobs that they were qualifies then Canadian Immigration (as advertised by the govt.) is a scam. if you are in a good job , how many people of desi origin that you know are suffering. Sucess is not measured just on your job but it is also measured by the fact whether all the desi's that you know are in good jobs.
In my experience (apart from IT) 90% of all desi's that i have seen are in labour jobs.
Anyways, this is just my view and please let no one take it as a personal insult.
TK




Looks like you are focussing too much on the failures? Its your choice and you are free to do that ofcourse. Maybe it even helps you in someway. Thankfully my reality is much different from yours. Among the guests I've got coming over for lunch ALL FROM INDIA. 2 Professors, 1 genetic scientist, 1 engineer working in Rolls Royce(part-time lecturer), ...so you see TK? My reality is going to continue to be different from yours.

I repeat

The more you try to convince others of the limited opportunities and seek out people with that kind of attitude, I assure you, your chances of success will keep shrinking!

That is your choice too. To me it looks like you have made your choice and I have made mine. You have to live with yours just like I have to live with mine :)


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