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Posted on: 24-11-04 03:12:51
Cren ,
W/O going into much debate now (leave it 2 the readers 2 decide)
for the specifics
>50% of H1B s were indeed lapped by Indians.
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Black money is excluded in any kind of survey u ve stated .hence the findings r bound 2 b misplaced . Actual levels may b much higher .
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USD 600is per capita and may mean 80% of Indians . But not ALL ---- I wish u stated how many Indians wudnt b able 2 produce 7.5 lacs ??? in numbers ----- Look @ Chandresh / Windsor and Deep s comments in addition 2 mine .
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The whole scenario changes when u find the top bracket Indians (10 to 15% who are well educated , professionals and the best of Indians (yet the average in their own class) reach Canada and land up amongst the lowest rung of Canadians doing menial jobs !!! Thats a paradox !! . Unlike South of the border .
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Kindly reserve any presumptions abt me or for that reason any1 else . I see an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY in India as well as the Middle East. Else I wud ve been in Canada by now .
As per me I have learnt the reality that jobs are definitely nt waiting for me despite my qualifications and expereince and I might have 2 decide an entrepreneurial route in which I m ready 2 pump CAD 100 000 plus . But thats me and most immigrants dont have that amount .
Manasvi .
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
W/O going into much debate now (leave it 2 the readers 2 decide)
Lol, you make it all sound so dramatic
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
for the specifics
50% of H1B s were indeed lapped by Indians.
Do you have a web link from the USCIS to support that?
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Black money is excluded in any kind of survey u ve stated .hence the findings r bound 2 b misplaced . Actual levels may b much higher .
Why? Do the 80% of people who earn less than $2 per day earn black money?!!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
USD 600is per capita and may mean 80% of Indians . But not ALL
I never said it meant all!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
I wish u stated how many Indians wudnt b able 2 produce 7.5 lacs ??? in numbers
This topic only arose because you said 15%. You put in a number that didn’t make sense, therefore I provided a rebuttal and we’ve gone on for several pages about this.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
----- Look @ Chandresh / Windsor and Deep s comments in addition 2 mine .
I’ve already provided rebuttals to all of these comments.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
The whole scenario changes when u find the top bracket Indians (10 to 15% who are well educated , professionals and the best of Indians (yet the average in their own class) reach Canada and land up amongst the lowest rung of Canadians doing menial jobs !!! Thats a paradox !! .
1. You are mistaken if you suggest that only people who come to Canada are average professionals who are ‘going nowhere’ in their careers. That may reflect your perception of your own skills and capabilities, certainly does not reflect ALL professionals.
2. ALL professionals who come to Canada do not land up doing menial jobs. In the past you tried to put a percentage to this (by saying that 80% of professionals work at Tim Horton’s)………we’ve already had a good deal of discussion on that, you couldn’t stick to the number!
3. Any process of immigration is fraught with risk. Earlier this week, you provided a link to an HSMP discussion forum, you will find lots of highly educated professionals complaining there too, saying that they cannot find jobs!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Unlike South of the border .
The US is a totally different process (lots of people who have worked in the US do not apply for immigration there, but rather chose to come to Canada). The length of time that an immigrant application takes is not really comparable with Canada. There too, if you search the internet, you will find many sob stories of immigrants.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Kindly reserve any presumptions abt me or for that reason any1 else . I see an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY in India as well as the Middle East. Else I wud ve been in Canada by now .
Well, you said that consultant-misportrayed-dreams crash within the first month of landing. Yet, despite having landed once here in Canada, you are still planning to return. If ‘consultant-misportrayed-dreams’ had crashed, 80% of professionals in Canada work at Tim Horton’s etc, you would not be planning to come here in the future.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
As per me I have learnt the reality that jobs are definitely nt waiting for me despite my qualifications and expereince and I might have 2 decide an entrepreneurial route in which I m ready 2 pump CAD 100 000 plus . But thats me and most immigrants dont have that amount .
Despite your qualifications and experience, hmm……Are those qualifications and experience as an ‘average professional who has nowhere else to go’?
Good for you! Just so you know however, CAD 100k does not amount to much here in Canada!
And since you talk to much about India and its ‘great’ business prospects, don’t you think it might make more sense for you to go and invest that money in India? After all, a few posts above, you talked about 40 million Indians who have incomes of $600k pa and 110 million Indians who have incomes of $20k pa.
Just wondering as to you motivation to still come to Canada. Since you’ve talked so negatively about Canada all this while, you should really explain for the benefit of all of us readers as to the reasons for you to still consider coming here.
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Orginally posted by crenshaw
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
W/O going into much debate now (leave it 2 the readers 2 decide)
Lol, you make it all sound so dramatic
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
for the specifics
50% of H1B s were indeed lapped by Indians.
Do you have a web link from the USCIS to support that?
Quote:
Orginally posted by Manasvi
Black money is excluded in any kind of survey u ve stated .hence the findings r bound 2 b misplaced . Actual levels may b much higher .
Why? Do the 80% of people who earn less than $2 per day earn black money?!!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
USD 600is per capita and may mean 80% of Indians . But not ALL
I never said it meant all!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
I wish u stated how many Indians wudnt b able 2 produce 7.5 lacs ??? in numbers
This topic only arose because you said 15%. You put in a number that didn’t make sense, therefore I provided a rebuttal and we’ve gone on for several pages about this.
Quote:
Orginally posted by Manasvi
----- Look @ Chandresh / Windsor and Deep s comments in addition 2 mine .
I’ve already provided rebuttals to all of these comments.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
The whole scenario changes when u find the top bracket Indians (10 to 15% who are well educated , professionals and the best of Indians (yet the average in their own class) reach Canada and land up amongst the lowest rung of Canadians doing menial jobs !!! Thats a paradox !! .
1. You are mistaken if you suggest that only people who come to Canada are average professionals who are ‘going nowhere’ in their careers. That may reflect your perception of your own skills and capabilities, certainly does not reflect
2. ALL professionals who come to Canada do not land up doing menial jobs. In the past you tried to put a percentage to this (by saying that 80% of professionals work at Tim Horton’s)………we’ve already had a good deal of discussion on that, you couldn’t stick to the number!
3. Any process of immigration is fraught with risk. Earlier this week, you provided a link to an HSMP discussion forum, you will find lots of highly educated professionals complaining there too, saying that they cannot find jobs!
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Unlike South of the border .
The US is a totally different process (lots of people who have worked in the US do not apply for immigration there, but rather chose to come to Canada). The length of time that an immigrant application takes is not really comparable with Canada. There too, if you search the internet, you will find many sob stories of immigrants.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
Kindly reserve any presumptions abt me or for that reason any1 else . I see an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY in India as well as the Middle East. Else I wud ve been in Canada by now .
Well, you said that consultant-misportrayed-dreams crash within the first month of landing. Yet, despite having landed here in Canada, you are still planning to come here. If ‘consultant-misportrayed-dreams’ had crashed, 80% of professionals in Canada work at Tim Horton’s etc, you would not be planning to come here in the future.
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Orginally posted by Manasvi
As per me I have learnt the reality that jobs are definitely nt waiting for me despite my qualifications and expereince and I might have 2 decide an entrepreneurial route in which I m ready 2 pump CAD 100 000 plus . But thats me and most immigrants dont have that amount .
Despite your qualifications and experience, hmm……Are those qualifications and experience as an ‘average professional who has nowhere else to go’?
Good for you! Just so you know however, CAD 100k does not amount to much here in Canada!
And since you talk to much about India and its ‘great’ business prospects, don’t you think it might make more sense for you to go and invest that money in India? After all, a few posts above, you talked about 40 million Indians who have incomes of $600k pa and 110 million Indians who have incomes of $20k pa.
Just wondering as to you motivation to still come to Canada. Since you’ve talked so negatively about Canada all this while, you should really explain for the benefit of all of us readers as to the reasons for you to still consider coming here.
Hey Mr. Crenshaw,
What do you know about the India except dharavi?
I shaw you there how to people leave, you dont even dream about it. OK
Only unmatured people can try to compare Canada with India. I told u 100 times.
Please stop this worhtless comparison.
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Kap
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Orginally posted by Kap
Only foolish man can compare Canada with India. I told u 100 times.
Please stop this worhtless comparison.
Lets see Kap. Crenshaw is quite muted in his responses nowadays. You go and call him foolish. What do you expect in return?
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Orginally posted by Kap
Hey Mr. Crenshaw,
What do you know about the India except dharavi?
I shaw you there how to people leave, you dont even dream about it. OK
Only foolish man can compare Canada with India. I told u 100 times.
Please stop this worhtless comparison.
Nice to see your reaction, Kap.
In the past too, its been primarily posts like yours that I’ve chosen to respond to in a harsh manner.
Little change of tack here though:
How do you presume that all I know of India is Dharavi? How do you support that presumption?
Also do brush up on your comprehension skills, there was no comparison being made between India and Canada on this post!
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Orginally posted by Kap
Hey Mr. Crenshaw,
What do you know about the India except dharavi?
I shaw you there how to people leave, you dont even dream about it. OK
Only unmatured people can try to compare Canada with India. I told u 100 times.
Please stop this worhtless comparison.
Lol
No offence man, but “how to people leave”………what were you trying to say?!
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Orginally posted by jake3d
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Orginally posted by Kap
Only foolish man can compare Canada with India. I told u 100 times.
Please stop this worhtless comparison.
Lets see Kap. Crenshaw is quite muted in his responses nowadays. You go and call him foolish. What do you expect in return?
U r some kind of supporter / spokesman for Crenshaw ....... ??? . Observed u referring him b4 also .........I thought 1 wud ve better things 2 do !!
U call a spade a spade man !!
Manasvi .
Manasvi .
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