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DesiBabu70   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-05-10 14:20:52

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Originally posted by meghal
LTTE extremists came under the garb of refugees, not as immigrants.

sure but net result is the same.
if chc does so much nitpicking and scrutiny for tourist visa shouldn't they have done even half of that before approving the refugee claim.
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And again, if Sikh terrorist were able to convince Canadian officials, that they were tortured, why didn't GOI did anything that time to show what was the reality?

maybe because GOI was just glad to get rid of them.
why should GOI shoot themselves in the foot and end up keeping those dangerous people there? just let them go somewhere else.



Ash20   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-05-10 14:34:32

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Originally posted by meghal



LTTE extremists came under the garb of refugees, not as immigrants.
And again, if Sikh terrorist were able to convince Canadian officials, that they were tortured, why didn't GOI did anything that time to show what was the reality?




It is CAN government duty to distinguish extremists/terrorists whether they come as a refugee or immigrants. Those same terrorists blew the plane and CAN officials were wrong at that time too. If you get chance and read the indian newspapers of 80s and you will see what Indian government has done at that time to convince CAN government. If you get chance to get CAN official records, Indian government has warned CAN government of plans of plane bombing but CAN government of that time did nothing.

Terrorism is a new thing for North America and it is fairly old for India. It is unfortunate that North America understood the pain of terrorism only in 21st century.

I will again reiterate that CAN government/official/police are much much better than IND government/official/police but this is indefensible controversy created by CAN officials.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-05-10 20:11:01

Visa denial practice is two years old. When GOI did not protest then, the Canadian official would have realized/ assumed that GOI is weak and such perception would have emboldened him. Amnesty International is a notorious organization. Recently they fired one Indian origin official in U.K. because she refused to share the platform with a known terrorist and anti women person. However, GOI, in past has gleefully supported Amnesty International when it opposed Mr, Narendra Modi’s visa application. World watches carefully political developments.

While Canada has denied via to Indian army personnel, I have not come across any instance of visa denial to Pakistan army personnel. Chinese official are well known for unspeakable horrors and torture of Tibetans but Canada rolls out red carpet for them.

I believe that they know that MMS and his Govt. is weak and hence the slap. Going by logic of Canadian official, Bush should have been banned from Canada.

Also it is well known that China issues “Stapled Visa” to Indian citizens from Kashmir and denies Visa to Indian citizens from Arunachal. Still MMS happily does business with them. Pakistan has slapped India time and again in past decade and in each instance MMS and Vajpayee bowed to Pakistan.

India deserves slap and that is what they got. I am not surprised.

MMS Govt. after media outrage has made a squeak. Let us see the result.



tullyjs   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-05-10 23:49:51

I am surprised at the tough stand taken by Indian govt this time over this issue. The ministry in a way threatened the Canadian govt of retaliatory actions against Canadains operating from India in Afgan ops. This is beyond doubt that when it comes to harrasment to anyone thru beaureucracy,our Indian system is best in the world. Also Canada refusing visa to intelligence officers and military and giving publicly reasons for refusal are equivalent to interfering in one's politics and internal matters. Either they should use/reserve their right to not to give any reason for refusal or should refrain from issuing such statements.

Now Canada will have no choice but to grant the visa and also come under the radar of Indian foreign policy makers and security agencies. I hope noone is harrassed because of the highly irresponsible and immature behaviour.

Now they will not only have to grant the visa but there will be thousands more in same category who will also line up to get chance to raise their issues if not granted.

This overinflated Canadian superiority complex and going strictly by the book doesnot always work.



abu_siraj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-05-10 03:42:38


if canadian high commission acts according to their law, then India can strenghten its foreign policy. Upon finding not only canadian but any foreign national who has violated human rights, a visa can be denied or deported.
india image has been damaged after Babri masjid demolition and gujarat atrocities. Infact Indian PM was once regret for the scenarios.



meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-05-10 09:15:30

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Originally posted by Nightmare


India deserves slap and that is what they got. I am not surprised.

MMS Govt. after media outrage has made a squeak. Let us see the result.



Fully agree with you Nightmare, on all your arguments. MMS government is like Dinosaur or कुंभकर्ण waking up from slumber after 2 years. And the issue of Chinese-stapled visa is still outstanding.



DesiBabu70   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-05-10 10:06:08

yes it is very easy to blame ourselves and our govt.
let's all agree with each other that it is our fault i.e. a third-world ex-slave country's fault that the oh mightly white first world G7 country won't let our violent barbaric people to visit their country.
it doesn't matter that the country in question is using double standards and stupid reasons to deny visas.

it is easy to say that our govt. reacts slowly.
it is a self-fulfilling statement.
of course a govt. reacts slowly, every govt. does.
it has taken US govt. how many weeks before finally stepping into the BP oil spil issue?

you speak of taking up the matter with indian origin MPs in Canada....oh you mean like Ruby Dhalla.
yes that will be very effective.





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