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Posted on: 29-11-08 15:31:12
Fido,
Who is my breathren and who is not is not for you to decide in the first place.
That is the typical mentality that I am talking about. You ASSUME stuff that leads to wrong conclusions.
Why should I careless for people who died in the Terror carnage in mumbai and more for people who were massacared in Gujrat in cold blood . You talk about some religions breeding more terrorist. Hitler was a Christian why dont you brand christianity as a terrorist religion.
No!!! you wont...you assume stuff and you live your whole life on assumptions and dicatation . Think man think....
Just don't write things for the sake of talking . Understand , analyze and then communicate...
God help you.
Shuja,
I have read your this post, earlier post in this thread and another post of yesterday (you know what kind of language you have written). You should have been banned by Moderators for such language (I know it is good that many of the CD has not seen your that post, as Moderators has correctly deleted that thread).
You yourself are assuming too much. You must criticise/protest against these terrorist at your religious place and also criticise those religious leaders who keep quite against such incident. If people like you protest against these terrorist more, it will be good for the whole world.
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Originally posted by shuja
Fido,
Who is my breathren and who is not is not for you to decide in the first place.
That is the typical mentality that I am talking about. You ASSUME stuff that leads to wrong conclusions.
Why should I careless for people who died in the Terror carnage in mumbai and more for people who were massacared in Gujrat in cold blood . You talk about some religions breeding more terrorist. Hitler was a Christian why dont you brand christianity as a terrorist religion.
No!!! you wont...you assume stuff and you live your whole life on assumptions and dicatation . Think man think....
Just don't write things for the sake of talking . Understand , analyze and then communicate...
God help you.
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Originally posted by Ash20
Shuja,
I have read your this post, earlier post in this thread and another post of yesterday (you know what kind of language you have written). You should have been banned by Moderators for such language (I know it is good that many of the CD has not seen your that post, as Moderators has correctly deleted that thread).
You yourself are assuming too much. You must criticise/protest against these terrorist at your religious place and also criticise those religious leaders who keep quite against such incident. If people like you protest against these terrorist more, it will be good for the whole world.
Quote:
Originally posted by shuja
Fido,
Who is my breathren and who is not is not for you to decide in the first place.
That is the typical mentality that I am talking about. You ASSUME stuff that leads to wrong conclusions.
Why should I careless for people who died in the Terror carnage in mumbai and more for people who were massacared in Gujrat in cold blood . You talk about some religions breeding more terrorist. Hitler was a Christian why dont you brand christianity as a terrorist religion.
No!!! you wont...you assume stuff and you live your whole life on assumptions and dicatation . Think man think....
Just don't write things for the sake of talking . Understand , analyze and then communicate...
God help you.
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Again what makes you assume that they had anything to do with Islam.
People were butchered in Gujrat and in kashmir should we assume that they had anything to do with Hinduisim.
Yes I agree that we should protest against such acts as Indians but not refering to religion and communities.
The post you are referring to was started by people who were bent on creating fueds and it is good that the moderator deleted the post.
I am not assuming anything. These people were muslims, it is beyond doubt. Yes, it is another issue that it may not have anything to do with true islam teachings (but I am not expert of islam or what that matter any religion).
You are giving reasons like Kashmir, Gujarat, why non-muslim work in Gulf, etc. when such henious crime has happenned. If you want to discuss these issues, you can start new threads (if moderators permit).
The problem is most of the islamic religious leaders (and people attending those religious activities) don't protest enough for such henious crime and most of the time keep quite, which gives impression that they are not against it.
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Originally posted by shuja
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Again what makes you assume that they had anything to do with Islam.
People were butchered in Gujrat and in kashmir should we assume that they had anything to do with Hinduisim.
Yes I agree that we should protest against such acts as Indians but not refering to religion and communities.
The post you are referring to was started by people who were bent on creating fueds and it is good that the moderator deleted the post.
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Originally posted by shuja
Again what makes you assume that they had anything to do with Islam.
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I think you lose all credibility when you make a point like this. What assumption? They were islamic fundamentalists, period! And these fundamentalists are the worst form of cancer on the planet right now.
Yes, I did delete the threads that started generalizing about all muslims, because it is wrong. Almost as wrong as being in denial that these terrorists were muslim and that fundamentalism is a bigger problem in Islam than any other religion by far.
Political correctness (or love for your own religion) shouldn't lead to myopia, otherwise you become part of the problem. You're only part of the solution if you can call a spade a spade.
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Originally posted by shuja
You talk about some religions breeding more terrorist. Hitler was a Christian why dont you brand christianity as a terrorist religion.
Hitler was Christian by birth(catholic like most Austrians). However the Nazi ideology was built more on paganism. The SS were particularly anti-christian and were encouraged to leave the church.
Hitler youth marching song:
We follow not Christ, but Horst Wessel,
Away with incense and Holy Water,
The Church can go hang for all we care,
The Swastika brings salvation on Earth
Hort Wessel was a Nazi streetfighter killed by the communists and a 'martyr' according to Nazis.
BTW: Its not like muslims, hindus or jews were the majority in the armies who defeated hitler and his army.
You should look into ties of muslim extremists with Hitler though. Including the fact that many soviet muslims left the red army to fight for Hitler. The grand Mufti of Palestine was a staunch ally of Hitler.
All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)
http://answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html
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Originally posted by shuja
Fido,
Why should I careless for people who died in the Terror carnage in mumbai and more for people who were massacared in Gujrat in cold blood .
Hi Shuja,
Are you referring to those children and women who died horribly in a train compartment which was barred so no one can escape?
Subsequent riots were reaction to that and if you have made research, analysis and a little thinking as you claim you do, then you will find that not only Muslims but a very large number of Hindus perished in those riots. Please note that I am not trying to condone riots. They were certainly bad and a syou claim you are from India then you should know that Indian judicial system is ou dated and no one believes it to be capable of delivering true justice. Burning innocent Hindu was so horrible act that there were riots from angry mob and I totally believe that Modi Govt did their best to control and also believe that scale was such that no one could have prevented that. The fact is that Madrsa flourinshing in India imparts very tainted view of Islam and the sad part is that educated Muslims have done little to stop spreading this venom. It si high time that elite section assume some responsibility and take corrective steps. Hope you would have observed that Shabana and TEESTA have not made a statement or for that matter Imam Bukhari has not squeked a word.
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