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Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 26-07-06 14:28:18
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Originally posted by Bhishma
I agree, its a generalised statement! But if you look at the percentile immigrants from those countries and that of ours, probably, we may see a difference!
Maybe because the "soft skills" and the "knowledge/experience" of work culture is found more commonly among individuals who have had US/UK/Australian work experience compared to individuals with work expr from India. Just a guess.
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Dimple2001
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Posted on: 26-07-06 14:37:46
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Originally posted by dimple2001
Maybe because the "soft skills" and the "knowledge/experience" of work culture is found more commonly among individuals who have had US/UK/Australian work experience compared to individuals with work expr from India. Just a guess.
I think this has way more to do with it than any of us realise...even more so than qualifications, which by the way we all know can be falsified through fake certification, something that is very common these days.
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Bijou Bazaar
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Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 26-07-06 14:55:14
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Originally posted by Pink Panther
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Originally posted by dimple2001
Maybe because the "soft skills" and the "knowledge/experience" of work culture is found more commonly among individuals who have had US/UK/Australian work experience compared to individuals with work expr from India. Just a guess.
I think this has way more to do with it than any of us realise...even more so than qualifications, which by the way we all know can be falsified through fake certification, something that is very common these days.
Fake certification can be obtained anywhere including the US. There are lot of interesting stories about U of Phoenix Online degree programs.
That been said, there is a sharp contrast in the work culture between countries such as US/Canada and China/Korea/India. The former maintains an egalitarian culture while the latter maintains a status culture.
In Canada/US, that's one of the reasons why soft skills such as diplomatic skills, interpersonal skills, personal appearance, decision making, etc etc are considered more important than the educational qualifications and hence there are numerous instances of younger bosses having older subordinates. On the flip side, you could potentially bs your way to the top (talk about extreme soft skills).
In status oriented work cultures, age and education are given top priority and hence you see more older bosses and an age structured hierarchy. While that brings a maturity to the org structure, on the flip side, any dope who has more work experience could become a manager without even possessing any managerial skills.
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Dimple2001
That's a super summary dimple. And VERY true.
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Are you there?
Dimple, What you mentioned was true in the yester years!! Not today, atleast in India. Companies which are progressive and going global match pace with any other country that you talk about. You find young leaders in big corporates (Not limited to IT) in India so many times. Age is NOT a factor anymore. And it is now a very common occurence. I can say that from my own experience. So many times, even in small business enterprises in India, we see a younger son handling a majority of the affairs of the business! And the older brigade assisting him....However, I could not say the same for Governmental and semi- governmental agencies of India. But for the Private Sector, I think, your belief/opinion is a thing of the past.
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Lead, Kindly Light!!
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Posted on: 26-07-06 16:15:51
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Originally posted by Bhishma
Dimple, What you mentioned was true in the yester years!! Not today, atleast in India. Companies which are progressive and going global match pace with any other country that you talk about. You find young leaders in big corporates (Not limited to IT) in India so many times. Age is NOT a factor anymore. And it is now a very common occurence. I can say that from my own experience. So many times, even in small business enterprises in India, we see a younger son handling a majority of the affairs of the business! And the older brigade assisting him....However, I could not say the same for Governmental and semi- governmental agencies of India. But for the Private Sector, I think, your belief/opinion is a thing of the past.
Bhishma, Dimple was pointing out the differences between eastern/western organisational work culture and what they place more importance on. He is not talking about ageism. Although ageism does exist here, with preference being given to a younger applicant, it is not the factor that ultimately decides whether you get a job or not...it has more to do with your "soft skills"...more so than even your qualifications.
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Bijou Bazaar
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Sorry to get a feeling that its taking a tangent! I am just trying to tell that there are so many immigrants from our countries who are "genuinely" qualified. Even for your term of "soft skills", if given a proper exposure our guys can excel. What is needed is a proper exposure... not an opening in some labour job through some employment agency. That is the reason I mentioned earlier about the need for training the new guys that come over. Is the opportunity provided...or is it conveniently neglected so that the "victim" unwillingly ends up doing labour jobs for his survival! There may be "n" number of justifications, but from within, do you buy those? I cant. I feel its a talent wasted under the guise.......
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