Fatwa on Football!


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amitcr   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 154
Location: North York, Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 01:02:20

Muslim clerics in Mallapuram are planning to come out with a Fatwa on Football now cuz they think it's 'evil'. HMMM so lets see, singing vande mataram is against islam, sania wearing skirts while playing tennis is against islam, watching TV is against islam and now watching and playing football is also against islam. These guys should come out with a list on whats NOT against islam. That would be easier and shorter!

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1721868,0035.htm



JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 09:25:28

Is there a "Saved Search" feature in Google...
BTW, whom do you call "These guys"....


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mangal   
Member since: May 06
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 12:57:55

Edited for Language...

1) Don't use the F word here
2) Restrict the use of the S word, don't "pile" it on



amitcr   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 154
Location: North York, Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 13:38:57

by these guys I meant the Mullahs. And if both of u had read the report before spewing hatred towards me, you would have understood that the report says the mullah are threatened because football is getting more popular then them. They are using religion to hold onto their status. And yes, I do have a right to critise mullahs, muslims, hindus, christians if I feel what they are doing is stupid. What you call "OTHER PEOPLES BUSINESS" affects MY COUNTRY. it is no longer anyones private business if if affects the whole country.

When Indian citizens refuse to send their kids to schools that make them sing or stand when national anthem is being played saying its against their religion then it is a INSULT to MY COUNTRY and i DO have the right to critise anyone who does that.

Both India and Canada are democratic countries and freedom of speech is my right. I don't give a shit if muslims critise their own mullahs or not, If i find them doing something stupid, I will say it out LOUD. And not you, Mangal nor Stpehen Harpar can ask me to shut up.

And you need to educate yourself. There are no liberal muslims. That was very much evident in the press conference held the Toronto police after the arrest of 17 alleged terrorists.

Muslims are muslims first and then Indians or canadians or germans. That is a sad fact and the sooner you accept it the better. I have never seen a christian say I am christian canadian or a Jew say I am Jewish CAnadian or even a Hindu say I am Hindu Canadian. Why then do muslims always specify that they are Muslim Canadians?

And Mangal, You better mind your language. You don't know me or where I am coming from and have no right to a personal attack on me.



JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 14:10:43

Amitcr,

No one can question your rights on freedom of speech but you're not addressing the Mullah, you're just implemeting your agenda of your personal likes and dislikes.

Search your own threads/posts in the same forum and see who spreads the hate and that would explain. Pages and pages wouldn't suffice if one start writing about misbehaviour of Priests in Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Jewish....their speech/activities may not represent the whole community.

BTW, how many muslims you've seen introducing themselves as Muslim Canadian in office or parks or elsewhere. In a press conference or in a public meeting with Media or officials where the subject is "Arrest of Muslims", Doesn't it strike to your brain that one also identifies him with his religion....

Why don't you think of doing something about it or start something instead of just yelling in a forum as always.. Why don't you contact the officials in Mallapuram or political parties there.. Similarly if you think you've got conflicts with the religion itself, why don't you initiate a debate with the religious scholars..

And How does a statement issued (authenticity is required amid the recent press goofups by large) by some one in Mallapuram relates to the Indians in Canada.. Also I'm very doubtful Canada will like to entertain local politics immigrants like to bring up so do CD.

I do not expect to continue my post in this thread as I strongly beleive it would be a big waste of my time and none of the reader would benefit anything out of it..






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mangal   
Member since: May 06
Posts: 6
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 14:18:33

amit.. i can see from ur profile that u have been in this country only for one year..which means u are a new immigrant... don't blame u.. shit u spreading here is exactly what u can expect from a anti-muslim guju immigrant... u will be fine though after a few years of living in canada.. now u are out of gujrat, let us hope that time will make u understand things better and open ur eyes to reality...

also... looks like u skipped reading immigration laws in immigration guide..i can't find the verbatim.. but it translates into something like this;

'that you are NOT allowed or encouraged to bring disputes and fights of your homelands to Canada'

i don't know much about what muslims doing to u guys in india but everyone has the common knowledge that they are a minority there 10 or 12% and what actully has happened in gujrat with muslim minority. everyone knows modi types of people (the politician and head of a state who was refused us/uk visa a year or so back for anti-muslim activities and encouraging communal voilance). keep your indo anti-muslim hatred to urself and don't expect canadian folks to join or agree to ur shitty hatred alliance... ..it is very unfortunate that post 9/11 even people (such as anti-muslim hindus of gujrat) who are committing attrocities against muslims anywhere in the world... think they and westerners are in the same boat against muslims. ... westerners are against muslim terrorists and people like u against simple poor muslims who can't defend themselves and don't even have food to eat. .... u get here and u have to stay canadian...respect canadian laws and dont bring hatred from other countries here plz...let this country stay peaceful.. .. if you love ur own country that much why not stay there...this is a peaceful land for peaceful people only not hate mongers.... you probably still haven't got ur citizenship and you will be ripped off of your canadian citizenship if authorities come to know about ur hateful feelings .that u bringing with u.... so like i said before .. (DON'T USE FOUL LANGUAGE)



crenshaw   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 914
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-06-06 14:42:08

Quote:
Originally posted by amitcr
When Indian citizens refuse to send their kids to schools that make them sing or stand when national anthem is being played saying its against their religion then it is a INSULT to MY COUNTRY and i DO have the right to critise anyone who does that.



When did 'Indian citizens refuse to sing the national anthem'? What are you referring to?



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