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DiogenestheCynic   
Member since: Oct 04
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Location: At my desk

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 10:55:06

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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
WORDS LIKE M*F* AND T**T ARE STRICTLY OFF LIMITS ON THIS SITE!!


I DID NOT USE M*F*!! I DID NOT USE T**T!! I do not even know what T**T stands for.

The only F* words I used were
- f****ing clueless git and what the f***k.

F*** and WTF has been used several times on this board by different people without any issue being raised. So what’s the big deal now all of a sudden?

Hope it is not because of personal affiliations, because I have seen examples of mods trying to help their "close" ones.

Are you telling me the use of the word “shit” is also prohibited? I am sure not. And if “shit” is Ok, what’s wrong with “shitferbrains” and “worthless sack of shit” or “lying sack of shit”?

In any case, these words are way too commonly used and it would be prudish in the extreme to be prohibited. Members here are adults.

Tell me, if you can sit and watch Hollywood movies, where these words are used in some of them every time you grab a potato chip and not get all wound up, why cry foul otherwise.

In any case, if you want to maintain double standards that’s your choice.
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Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Besides, do you want me to pull up all the threads where you've insulted people without any provocation?


That’s a challenge to you BL!! Seriously! Show me one .single .post where I have made an attack of a personal nature on anyone, without provocation.

And if you want to know an example of “personal”, read 3d’s post no 1539 in this thread on the previous page.

Hope you will take up this challenge BL.


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 11:41:46

Like I said, I do not want these words to be used in ANY FORM WHATSOEVER!!! What part of that don't you understand??

And you bet I'm up to the challenge. I'll get back to you on it.


Quote:
Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic

Quote:
Orginally posted by BlueLobster
WORDS LIKE M*F* AND T**T ARE STRICTLY OFF LIMITS ON THIS SITE!!


I DID NOT USE M*F*!! I DID NOT USE T**T!! I do not even know what T**T stands for.

The only F* words I used were
- f****ing clueless git and what the f***k.

F*** and WTF has been used several times on this board by different people without any issue being raised. So what’s the big deal now all of a sudden?

Hope it is not because of personal affiliations, because I have seen examples of mods trying to help their "close" ones.

Are you telling me the use of the word “shit” is also prohibited? I am sure not. And if “shit” is Ok, what’s wrong with “shitferbrains” and “worthless sack of shit” or “lying sack of shit”?

In any case, these words are way too commonly used and it would be prudish in the extreme to be prohibited. Members here are adults.

Tell me, if you can sit and watch Hollywood movies, where these words are used in some of them every time you grab a potato chip and not get all wound up, why cry foul otherwise.

In any case, if you want to maintain double standards that’s your choice.
Quote:
Orginally posted by BlueLobster
Besides, do you want me to pull up all the threads where you've insulted people without any provocation?


That’s a challenge to you BL!! Seriously! Show me one .single .post where I have made an attack of a personal nature on anyone, without provocation.

And if you want to know an example of “personal”, read 3d’s post no 1539 in this thread on the previous page.

Hope you will take up this challenge BL.


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 11:48:15

This is not that type of forum where moderators are detached from the debate. And I'm not taking any sides here. If we all agree to not make personal attacks (myself J3D, Diogenes, you, ALL INCLUDED), I think we'll all do quite well.

I don't exactly have as much time as I'd like to on Cdesi. So if someone sends me a complaint and expects action right away, that's NOT going to happen. DTC was certainly justified in his complaint and I would've followed up with J3D, he never gave me the chance.

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Thats impossible. Even if a small group of forumites try.



That was my point exactly. It is impossible to have a situation where no one makes fun of any one. I will however not allow a situation where moderators are being made fun of for pointing something legit out. And FYI I wasn't referring to DTC's post in that context.



Quote:
Orginally posted by mercury6

Quote:
Orginally posted by BlueLobster
No its not.



Then, will you ban them?


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I'd love to have a situation where nobody makes fun of anybody and we all get along.



Thats impossible. Even if a small group of forumites try.

You cant stop every newly registered forumite from repeating it.
Are you going to ban that person?
Because he belongs to one of the "Canada - The worst place to live" or "The Loser immigrant population - why dont they go back", etc... camps.

If as a Mod you begin to take sides in a debate so as to issue warnings, bannings, that is a recipe for more trouble.

The first mod who saw this thread got it wrong as DTC addressed above.
Either that or missed the sequence of events.

I participate in forums where the MOD/Admin is completely detached from the debate part.
Unfortunately, its part of the territory of being a MOD or in a wider context in a position of any power.

Also, we are adults and when adults talk all sorts of stuff is said. My only point earlier in this thread was not to get into peoples' personal lives.
And that personal remarks based on the content of peoples posts are different from personal remarks about someone's family, age, job situation.
Am I saying doing the former is ok? no. But it is impossible to prevent too.

Remember when Manjeet444 made some personal comments againt you.
Wasnt that out of line and you let him know in no uncertain terms that there is a line that one should not cross and the consequences?
Didnt you have a protracted argument with him where you called each other all sorts of things?
But when the personal comments about you family were made, you got mad enough to tell him you would ban him.


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 11:55:03

Quote:
Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic

That’s a challenge to you BL!! Seriously! Show me one .single .post where I have made an attack of a personal nature on anyone, without provocation.

And if you want to know an example of “personal”, read 3d’s post no 1539 in this thread on the previous page.

Hope you will take up this challenge BL.



Here's one. Took me about a minute to find. You called the guy a clown for no reason whatsoever.

Now let's see a big long post justifying it...

http://www.canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=6044&page=1#32696


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 12:06:47

Quote:
Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic


And if you want to know an example of “personal”, read 3d’s post no 1539 in this thread on the previous page.




hey..you dont make the rules and decide what is 'personal' and what is not. Dumping on posts like you did with GIG(calling him a clown...when you were the last thing, if at all, on his mind) and ridiculing VJ job(telemarketing) etc are also 'personal' in my book. You find logic in your response(and use of bodily functions)... I find logic in mine to you. We just have to agree to disagree.

Anyway...instead of dragging this on let me end this(or try to) by apologizing to you DTC for my conduct. However, justified it may have seemed to me...I did give in to my baser instincts. I do not expect you to accept the apology or NOT try to hitback at me.

You have to find your own way to get what I have said out of your system and I accept that. I'm doing the same for myself by apologizing and not hitting back anymore.

peace!(from my side)


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mercury6   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 2025
Location: State of Denial

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 13:04:02

Quote:
Orginally posted by BlueLobster
This is not that type of forum where moderators are detached from the debate.



Thats your choice.
That leaves you open to what the regular members here go through.
Sorry, thats the truth. Go ahead Ban them. That wouldnt be fair, because then it stops being a debate.
I am just pointing it out. Thats what I am doing in the prev posts.

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And I'm not taking any sides here.



Then I request you to issue a warning to people like the starter of this thread. Positive attitude, my foot. All they do is berate other people.
The very fact that this guy starts a thread (with a title on all in upper caps too) claiming some sort of persecution is proof of the bloated ego that you talked of earlier.

You receive a request to ban Tmogrifier, you took a stand against Puru for the "white master" comments, well here is a request to ban STHIRU18. Issue him a warning either through, since this episode thing is started by him.

Also pick out each such poster with the same vigor that you would with the "Canada Sucks" group.

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I don't exactly have as much time as I'd like to on Cdesi. So if someone sends me a complaint and expects action right away, that's NOT going to happen. DTC was certainly justified in his complaint and I would've followed up with J3D, he never gave me the chance.



I believe if you to run this board with a strong and even hand, it is requisite that the hand or a substitute be present most if not all the time. You have 4 or 5 mods, why are they not here? Give them clear directions. They can issue warnings and report the poster to you for further action.

If the code allows, add a report function where people can report offending posts. This way you dont always have to go though each post to keep track.
Of course someone would have to be receiving it and acting on it quick.


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-09-05 13:12:34

Quote:
Orginally posted by mercury6


Then I request you to issue a warning to people like the starter of this thread. Positive attitude, my foot. All they do is berate other people.
The very fact that this guy starts a thread (with a title on all in upper caps too) claiming some sort of persecution is proof of the bloated ego that you talked of earlier.

You receive a request to ban Tmogrifier, you took a stand against Puru for the "white master" comments, well here is a request to ban STHIRU18. Issue him a warning either through, since this episode thing is started by him.

Also pick out each such poster with the same vigor that you would with the "Canada Sucks" group.




you could do with a little of that 'Dr.Phil' thing I gave out earlier. Unfortunately, I do not have the time or the inclination. People living in glass houses should not be throwing stones.


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