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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-15 19:18:53

Not surprising that the terrorist caught alive is not accepted as Pakistani.

Even if Nawaz Sherif or Musharaff were to roam around our cities doing a 26/11 and caught with their AK47 and blood in hand, certain that Pakistan will not accept that they come from their soil. Again, both of them have as much hatred for India as any of their most dreaded terrorist. Our policy makers are only fumbling and floundering when it comes to Pakistan. Stratifying the country as people, civil society, government, army, ISI, state actors, non-state actors etc.


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puttoo   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 1096
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-08-15 13:17:40

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Originally posted by mcg7

Modi/Doval must take initiative and start process of disintegration of Pakistan same as Indians did in 1971




You should take the cue from Modi G and lower the rhetoric.

It has been almost a year since talks with Pakistan were called off by him because their high commissioner met with Hurriyat.

Now Modi G hasn't called off the talks between the NSA's of the two countries even though the high commissioner did a repeat. I am impressed that even the killing by terrorists in Punjab hasn't derailed the talks.

I believe Modi G started dialogue with Pakistan because he understands, like Atal G that the ONLY way to deal with Pakistan is through dialogue. I would hate to think that he was forced to "talk" to Nawaz Sharif at Ufa by a "foreign hand". :)

The elections are over and he IS the prime minister of India.

Good to see he acting like one. :cheers:



Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-08-15 08:43:17

Its not easy to deal with Pakistan - Since they have full support from China as well as West still like to create tension so they can keep selling weapons...

The only solutions is peaceful talk unless if it's really required war

- People can bash Modi for his "56 Chest" but he is very smart PM - There will be secret OP's and secret deals but full fledge war is not possible with Pakistan - The main reason Pakistan has not much to lose but India will go back 20 years

small scale war will be an option to break pakistan into two / three states but that will only possible we build more economical tie with China so China will not full oppose ( Chinese only cares for business)

Modi has got best man DOVAL , so far he has been doing excellent job and will see more result in coming future ...


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'Some goals are so worthy, it's glorious even to fail.' (Param Vir Chakra awardee Lt. Manoj Pandey)


Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-08-15 10:46:33

And that's the same approach Cong followed ... (keep the talks on and on and on with no conclusion )

What's the difference ?

Indira Gandhi was a shrewd and capable leader who hit the iron when it was hot and disintegrated Pakistan , a wound which it is licking till date ...

Also appreciable was ABV's no nonsense approach on Kargil which forced US to influence Pak to withdraw its Army regulars and supported terrorists back in 98-99 .

Unless a somewhat strong stance is taken , history says that Pakistan will keep on its guerrilla tactics and keep on raising the issue of Kashmir.


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Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-08-15 19:21:28

Pakistan is Spoil kids ( by USA mainly)

India is playing smart especially Modi got Doval - he is the best person.

He knows the tactic - We see the result of his work already .

Wait till we start doing Ops in POK - but for that then need time to gather support and planning

Last year has been headache for Pak Army - New Govt has given full power to retaliate with any border mischief - Now some sort of media is also in control by govt for Defence related news

Wait and watch -


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'Some goals are so worthy, it's glorious even to fail.' (Param Vir Chakra awardee Lt. Manoj Pandey)


Rajagopal   
Member since: May 11
Posts: 348
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-15 16:20:01

Public school....private schools...Canada education...Indian education...These are all endless debates going on.

The real education is what this little kid has. watch it and believe it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77HHYWSvm8Q#t=42

Now that's called a good, decent upbringing. :D



ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-15 21:07:34

We are not taking this threat seriously, but still are pursuing people to people contact, cricket and hockey diplomacy. we already have lost all but traces of our civilization in India before 1000 A.D. But are still following waiting at the gate policy. History may repeat itself.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-isis-plans-to-take-over-india-by-2020-shows-group-s-map-2112936?ref=yfp


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