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Posted on: 22-01-10 12:24:57
I honestly cannot understand the mentality of some people.
Is IMAGE more important than human safety and dignity? The OP presented a very real and human issue that ALL OF US are responsible for. Do you think its ok that even ONE child in India is being abused - as long as we look good to the world? what the heck?
Yes - i am a little bit angry today. I cant believe how insensitive some of your posts are. Its not about INDIA's IMAGE. It is about Poor innocent children suffering abuse at the hands of people.
what kind of society can shine in the world where people actually think its ok to rape 2 year old babies? its sick. You can spit shine it on top but its still the same filth underneath.
Understand what the OP was trying to say here:
Let me quote : "The story in THE HINDU paints a grim picture of what children in India endure, and how there is no teeth in the law to protect them from abuse, rape, and assault."
The majority of the child abuse occurs by family members or those who are in positions of authority.
Why shouldnt we discuss issues or topics related to this on this forum? Can we pretend it doesnt exist? Do we say "not my problem" to everything?
Raising awareness by reading articles like this. Lobbying or supporting groups that try to raise awareness of child abuse is one way to help. Lobby for more government funding for child welfare agencies in India. Use media to raise awareness of what is right and wrong touching of a child and make people accountable!
It is a huge undertaking to shift an entire country's (that too with a billion population) perception and cultural mores in one generation. It probably wont happen while we are alive. However Id like to see an India where if you are seen abusing a child, woman or animal (or any other living creature) on the street - someone walks up to you and says what the heck are you doing?.
People need to start stepping in where they see injustice and not just close their eyes and walk away out of fear for themselves.
Useless are people, in my opinion, that dont care about those in society that cannot stand up or speak for themselves. Its not all about IMAGE of India.
ILOVENA: please keep posting and raising awareness of these. Thank you.
Empathy and caring. Its what makes us human.
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~ Morning rain
Look at the press in India - we are here, 7000 miles from the country of our birth. The media is no longer controlled be it the print or visual media. There are hundreds of private television channels that highlights what happens around. Some of these have brought about sea change in laws - like some in the Indian penal code. That is the purpose - not to malign the society there. If you still want to hold that opinion that this is to portray the dark side, you are not being proactive - just reactive.
Would you pick up a fight with every newspaper and television channel that highlights the ills that face society there? What do you propose we do, as a large body to improve things there? Can you do that without knowing what the issues are, and how we go from here to change that? Logically that would not be possible.
When you talk about "being a good person" that gets personal - but that will not make a difference to me. We have a right to express information, and we do not live in a banana republic.
I would rather challenge you to prove that the statistics or the information mentioned, are wrong, distorted or biased. I will join you in writing to every newspaper or media to do so.
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
The point is not " wat is right or Wrong" - We all know the truth...so stop posting useless articles...
No one is perfect, but It could always improve ..
I tend to side ILOVENA on this issue. This cannot be compared to issues like Slumdog Millionaire or documentaries about India on CBC/CNN.
He/She has posted a link that was posted on an Indian newspaper site, to a forum which is frequented by people of Indian origin. I do not see where India is humiliated in this post. Instances of child abuse is everywhere.
Also, child abuse is not only related to pedophilia. How about child labour? How about the issue discussed in "3 idiots"?
If there is an issue that plagues society, it should be discussed in open. I recollect an interview of Pramod Navalkar, where he praised pedophiles over homosexuals. Maybe awareness for crimes against child would make politicians avoid such stupid statements.
"Slumdog Millionaire" or "Salaam Bombay" was more about selling Indian poverty to western world in name of art - just to give them the "holier than thou" and "feel good" vibes.
On a side note, link from rediff about an interview with an author, which condemns the activity of moral police in Kerala
http://news.rediff.com/interview/2010/jan/20/there-is-a-lot-of-sex-starvation-in-kerala.htm
Why majority of such heinous crimes go unreported ?
The answer to that question is the solution that could work against such crime.
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Originally posted by morning_rain
I honestly cannot understand the mentality of some people.
Is IMAGE more important than human safety and dignity? The OP presented a very real and human issue that ALL OF US are responsible for. Do you think its ok that even ONE child in India is being abused - as long as we look good to the world? what the heck?
Yes - i am a little bit angry today. I cant believe how insensitive some of your posts are. Its not about INDIA's IMAGE. It is about Poor innocent children suffering abuse at the hands of people.
what kind of society can shine in the world where people actually think its ok to rape 2 year old babies? its sick. You can spit shine it on top but its still the same filth underneath.
Understand what the OP was trying to say here:
Let me quote : "The story in THE HINDU paints a grim picture of what children in India endure, and how there is no teeth in the law to protect them from abuse, rape, and assault."
The majority of the child abuse occurs by family members or those who are in positions of authority.
Why shouldnt we discuss issues or topics related to this on this forum? Can we pretend it doesnt exist? Do we say "not my problem" to everything?
Raising awareness by reading articles like this. Lobbying or supporting groups that try to raise awareness of child abuse is one way to help. Lobby for more government funding for child welfare agencies in India. Use media to raise awareness of what is right and wrong touching of a child and make people accountable!
It is a huge undertaking to shift an entire country's (that too with a billion population) perception and cultural mores in one generation. It probably wont happen while we are alive. However Id like to see an India where if you are seen abusing a child, woman or animal (or any other living creature) on the street - someone walks up to you and says what the heck are you doing?.
People need to start stepping in where they see injustice and not just close their eyes and walk away out of fear for themselves.
Useless are people, in my opinion, that dont care about those in society that cannot stand up or speak for themselves. Its not all about IMAGE of India.
ILOVENA: please keep posting and raising awareness of these. Thank you.
Empathy and caring. Its what makes us human.
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The cowards never started,
The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yK1i9cLAMM
If the title says "Truth about child Abuse in CANADA instead of India" then we would still have have the same ramblings, arguments & debates targetting the Original poster for trying to defame the country he/she is living in.Each person is different in their opinions, views on various topics & we often disagree with our own family members in various subject matters. My opinion is, it is always healthy If only when every one look into actual subject matter & debate on the topic itself rather than analyzing the original poster opinions & intentions because once we get one on one into personal opinions the soul of original post is lost. The reality is we will always be tied with country we are born & the country we are living but if someone posts any controversal topics it is not necessary that they should be blamed that they are representing dark side of that country. Infact, I prefer more news like this needs to come to light everytime it happens ( Be it in india or any country ) so socitey can actually do something about it.
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Originally posted by morning_rain
I honestly cannot understand the mentality of some people.
Is IMAGE more important than human safety and dignity? The OP presented a very real and human issue that ALL OF US are responsible for. Do you think its ok that even ONE child in India is being abused - as long as we look good to the world? what the heck?
Yes - i am a little bit angry today. I cant believe how insensitive some of your posts are. Its not about INDIA's IMAGE. It is about Poor innocent children suffering abuse at the hands of people.
what kind of society can shine in the world where people actually think its ok to rape 2 year old babies? its sick. You can spit shine it on top but its still the same filth underneath.
Understand what the OP was trying to say here:
Let me quote : "The story in THE HINDU paints a grim picture of what children in India endure, and how there is no teeth in the law to protect them from abuse, rape, and assault."
The majority of the child abuse occurs by family members or those who are in positions of authority.
Why shouldnt we discuss issues or topics related to this on this forum? Can we pretend it doesnt exist? Do we say "not my problem" to everything?
Raising awareness by reading articles like this. Lobbying or supporting groups that try to raise awareness of child abuse is one way to help. Lobby for more government funding for child welfare agencies in India. Use media to raise awareness of what is right and wrong touching of a child and make people accountable!
It is a huge undertaking to shift an entire country's (that too with a billion population) perception and cultural mores in one generation. It probably wont happen while we are alive. However Id like to see an India where if you are seen abusing a child, woman or animal (or any other living creature) on the street - someone walks up to you and says what the heck are you doing?.
People need to start stepping in where they see injustice and not just close their eyes and walk away out of fear for themselves.
Useless are people, in my opinion, that dont care about those in society that cannot stand up or speak for themselves. Its not all about IMAGE of India.
ILOVENA: please keep posting and raising awareness of these. Thank you.
Empathy and caring. Its what makes us human.
The point is , why did ILOVENA posted this in the first palce? Was he trying to say something of which CDs are not aware? As I have pointed in my previous post, this piece of shit in the Hindu is totally inappropriate and without any "Empathy and caring". The Hindu tried to deflect the gravity of offense committed by Rathore, complicity of politicians, judiciary and Newspapers. I am sure that if archieves of The Hindu are searched , they would have praised Rathore for wahtever medal he got. Judiciary, which is dysfunctional at the best and servile to politicians , did not take any action against Rathore. If at all, The Hindu should have praised their competitor IBN News , who relentlessly campaigned to draw people's attention to the very light punishment to Rathore. We should also appreciate awareness in the present generation who brought tremendous pressure on Congi rascals and made them act (though I have my doubts whether Rathore ultimately will be punished). The Hindu is absolutely anti Indian newspaper , notwithstanding its 123 years of existence. N.Ram may be a wealthy person but is committed to Marxism (?) and devote Chinese lackey. The moron can not see as he has his blinkers. What can be the standard of newspaper which wrotr tons of articles in praise of Jyoti Basu who was one of the most criminal minded and thoroughly corrupt politician. (please do not ask me to provide proof. Those who want proof should first provide me proof of Bush's complicity and guilt). Wish The Hindu has guts to go after Rathore and wish ILOVENA admits that this post was not required at this juncture.
Nightmare - your language is vulgar, to say the least. I wouldn't think words like SH*T are appropriate. I will not be cowed down by your choice of epithets, or abuses. I take that as nothing but a knee jerk reactions. You have not been able to counter or defend any of what you said in your earlier post.
I will not apologize for this post. It appears that you have not read my retort. This post was meant for those who did not come across the article. Besides it is for the moderators to delete the post, should that be inappropriate. I do not think you have the moral right to sit in judgment about what someone posts here.
You appear to have a personal grudge against THE HINDU. You have not substantiated your earlier accusation that N.RAM was funded by the Chinese Government. Calling him a moron is the last thing you do. If you do not have a healthy choice of words, I can only feel sorry for you. As for your calling hi (Sadly, and unfortunately 1.1 million readers do not share your opinion).
When I read your article, I find that it is you who seems to deflect the complexity and the significance of child abuse in India. You keep ranting about Jyoti Basu, N. Ram and S.P.S. Rathore, none of which have any connection to it.
Your accusation that the daily did not cover or bring out the misdeeds of S.P,S. Rathore - you are wrong. There have been several articles including one, that reads "Ten reasons why criminals in Khaki get away" Here is the link:
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2009122655410900.htm&date=2009/12/26/&prd=th&
How do you call the newspaper "anti India"? If being a communist was "anti Indian", then the governments in West Bengal, Tripura & Kerala, and the people who elected them, should be "anti Indian". Besides, if you study the constitution of India, it does not ban communist parties or communism as a social order. That you (and I) disagree with the principles of communism is a different matter. An orderly society goes by what the law says, and not what an individual likes or dislikes - Unfortunately, that is the truth.
Finally, you will find little of my opinion in the post. Yes I still stand by what I wrote - Unfortunately this is the truth . The story in THE HINDU paints a grim picture of what children in India endure, and how there is no teeth in the law to protect them from abuse, rape, and assault.
If you want to continue your tirade and abuse, please suit yourself. On the other hand, if you have facts to back up what you write, that would be great!
