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Jobs For Women?




Can anyone focus on how the job market is for women like me? (done M.A. in india)

What I would like to know is:

1. What opportunities exist?
2. Does it help to have proficiency in French for any job?
3. What are the salaries like (starting, mid-career, peak-level)

Thanks,


 
Archana

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Post ID: 32820 25-11-04 06:05:00
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Archana,

Your question does not have any details except that you are an MA - it does not even mention what subject. With such an information, it is difficult to answer your question - unless you want anyone to answer generally saying that you can get a jobs like retail cash clerk in places like Wall Mart, Zellers, Bay, Home depot, etc. etc.

You have to be more specific - your education, your working experience till now, if any, any special abilities you have, your age (yes, on paper there is no discrimination on age, but in practice it is different), your knowledge and command over English (both written and oral) are some of the various aspects one would need to know to give you a relatively meaningful reply.

In general, my experience is that it is easier for women immigrants to get jobs than male immigrants. That's just my observation - could be different for someone else.

Chandresh

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Post ID: 32833 25-11-04 10:43:23
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Quote:
Orginally posted by chandresh

generally saying that you can get a jobs like retail cash clerk in places like Wall Mart, Zellers, Bay, Home depot, etc. etc.

You have to be more specific - your education, your working experience till now, if any, any special abilities you have, your age (yes, on paper there is no discrimination on age, but in practice it is different), your knowledge and command over English (both written and oral) are some of the various aspects one would need to know to give you a relatively meaningful reply.

In general, my experience is that it is easier for women immigrants to get jobs than male immigrants. That's just my observation - could be different for someone else.

Chandresh



Dear Mr.
Chandresh thank you for responce..

I am 25 years old housewife and recently I passes my M.A. - II ,
I don't have experience of any job here in india.
Is it useful for me if I have some experience of job in india?

I can read and wtrite english very well but i can's speak .. Should I need to improve my ability of english speaking ?

Can I get job there which can give me Cad between 1500 to 2000 p.m. for 8 hours job?

thank you


 
Post ID: 33111 29-11-04 05:59:47
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With the background you have narrated, it will be best for you to prepare yourself in such a manner:

1. Try to improve on your spoken English - it does not have to very good english, but your communication should be clear and with confidence. The one important thing that lacks in Indian women (my own sisters included) who have not studied in English medium schools is that even if they can understand English, they cannot speak with confidence, and they are too shy. That is one most important thing - you will have to overcome that shyness and start speaking in English, whether right or wrong grammer.

2. Once you have gained that confidence, then try to improve upon your sentence structure - that is one thing that will take time, but slowly it will come. One of the best things to do is try reading some books - if you like fiction, go for light fiction so that you do not take it as a text book, but something to enjoy. That will not only improve your english, but also give you some tips on the way English is spoken in the west.

3. Try to get some work experience - but in a place where there are no people related to you (like koi chacha/tau ke office main kaam mat kar lena), so that you gain the confidence of working with people coming from different backgrounds and totally unknown to you. This experience can be in any kind of work place - office, warehouse, shop anywhere. But if it gives you an opportunity to communicate in English, that would be better.

4. In case you do not dress in western clothes, try getting into some western outfits and not be conscious about it. You will need to wear such clothes once you are here.

5. Prepare yourself mentally to be able to do some factory jobs - they are not bad, and definitely much better than what you would imagine for jobs in Indian factories. There are a lot of Indian ladies working in factories doing assembly/packing jobs. Do not think of them as menial jobs.

6. Frankly, in my opinion, you can get jobs in the range of about 7 to 9 dollars per hour which translates into about $1,000 to 1250 per month to start with. Rest will depend on your own confidence and abilties to take up responsibilities.

Chandresh

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Post ID: 33115 29-11-04 09:06:07
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VJ
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My input
Hi Archana,

Although I am in INDIA, I thought of sharing the information I have regarding your query. I am sure senior desis, who are already in CANADA and have more real experience would correct me if I am wrong somewhere.

Although my wife is an experienced banker in INDIA, you both practically would be sailing in the same boat after landing, as generally one has to start from the ZERO level in working. I am also told that females do get jobs easily or faster then males. You can think of CSR (customer service jobs), Call center jobs or handling the CASH/RETAIL counters for some super departmental stores.

I doubt, one can get the amount shown by you initially? I have a data, in which if you work for 4/5 hours (being a female if you have constraints for more hours), then you can get some 700/1000 CAD initially after TAX deduction. But I am sure many must have got more money then this in the first job itself.

Yes, I would strongly recommend about ENGLISH. Although my wife has studied in ENGLISH medium and uses English as a medium in her day-to-day working atmosphere, we have decided to talk mostly in ENGLISH from the last month, read English newspapers, watch ENGLISH channels like BBC etc.. I told my wife to add more conviction(I hope I have spelled it right?) to the communication if not STYLE. You gotta impress people in the first round.

I hope this brings some benefit to you. Unfortunatly my wife works more then me :D , as definition of Banking has changed in INDIA and comes back home by 10.00 PM, so unable to seat on CD.com. But I would surely tell her to be in touch with you. Her id is Mrs. VJ.

Regards,

Vj.


 
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hi
archana,chandresh and vj
same problem i am facing heure,i am also not from english medium i can understand all but problem with speaking.
archana what do u do for time pass?i am also house wife. plz give some suggestions


 
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Quote:
Orginally posted by VJ

...I doubt, one can get the amount shown by you initially? I have a data, in which if you work for 4/5 hours (being a female if you have constraints for more hours), then you can get some 700/1000 CAD initially after TAX deduction. But I am sure many must have got more money then this in the first job itself.

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If you work 40 hours per week at the rate of $8/ hour then at end of the month, you get around $1050 after tax. Jobs in store usually pay around $8-9/hour. $1500 a month would mean a job that fetches around $14/hour.

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maxim
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Hi Archana
if you have intrest in Teaching line than this could be a good option for you.canada allways need teachers.but you have to learn speak english.if you know french it is asset,but for doing job french is not necessary

private schools in canada d,nt required any certifications etc.
eg , for juniour lavel & montessory you can teach directly with your M.A Degree but
if u like to teach seniour classes and in Govt schools than you need BEd .
you will earn 3 or 4 time more than any factory labour job.
it is not very good for an Indian women doing labour job in Canadian factories, anyway it is uptoyou what you like.
Good Luck.:)

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Last edited by: maxim on 07-12-04 23:45:20
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Archana
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Good suggestions
Dear all

Chandresh,vj,rajcanada,maxim
thank you
I have go good info from you that before i did not know all this thisngs
Chandresh has given me good suggestion that " Gathered work exp. at some unfamilier places and i will have to wear western dresses"

So Now I am trying to do the above things.

But I am too shy and I m not looking so attractive,moreover my hight is only 5 feet and single body.
As Maxim suggest me I decided to choose teaching profession as this job i can get easily ..

Am i right?

and I also try to improve my english speaking and writing skill.

If I shall get $1,000 to 1250 per month is it good for me?? Pl. tell me.

Waiting for your reply
yours truly


 
Post ID: 34227 10-12-04 07:06:55
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While I appreciate the efforts of Maxim to give you his input, but as soon as I read it, I knew it would create problem. That is what has happened - you have been believed to think that getting into teaching is easy in Canada.

Well let me clarify that it is one of the toughest professions to get in, as well as remain there, and that is why, this profession is in reasonably good demand all over North America.

First of all, to get into teaching, you have to be a certified teacher. This is done either by transferring your overseas credentials (like BEd), or by studying in the university here and doing the course. Though you have not written it, it is very clear you do not possess B Ed, or you would have said that you are a qualified teacher. That means that you have to first study in Canada to get your B Ed.

To be able to get an admission in B Ed in Canada is not that easy. From my experience, let me tell you that when my wife applied for the university, there were 6000 applicants of which they sent an interview letter only to 700 applicants. It was an interview by 3 persons bench and obviously they expect you to speck good English. Out of the 700 interviewed, only 75 were selected to be admitted!! My wife had a Masters from India, and though had no teaching experience per se, she had ten years of experience as supply teacher (substitute teacher), a private tutor, teacher in tuition centres and lots of voluntary experience in Canadian schools. Even then she got rejected in one university - and mind you, she is gold medalist in MA (psychology!).

Even if you get in, the course itself is not easy. Firstly, it is entirely different from B Ed in India. It is more practical and based on personal presentations, which have to be very attractive. And it is quite taxing too - my wife used to leave home at 7 in the morning, return at 5, and then study till almost midnight everyday (that is the time I had to learn to cook!). I still tell her that doing CA or MBA would have been much easier.

Apart from that, a teacher in Canada has to have a good command over English language - and should not be at all shy! She has to face so many children, so many parents, and ofcourse her co-teachers and principal. There are regular courses one has to attend every year or so to maintain your teaching certificate, and always keep upgrading yourself since there are regular assessments from Principal every few years. This is one profession I have heard where people have nervous breakdowns, specially during report card season (twice a year). The report cards have to have comments for each individual student, and whatever teacher writes there, he/she should be able to back it up with examples. There are strict guidelines as to how report cards should be made and each report card is personally read by the Principal, who edits/approves it before it is given to the student!

The only good thing in this profession in Canada is that you get two months holidays in Summer and two weeks in winter.

And I will be absolutely blunt with you - having read your posts, I am sure this profession in Canada is not for you. Others might have different opinion- but I speak from experience and the maturity and understanding that is brought by age!

Chandresh

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