Attack on Indian student in AUSTRALIA


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zorro   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-06-09 16:59:00

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Originally posted by pratickm

Quote:
Originally posted by web2000
As long as students can return back home after study in Australia, all such problems will be gone. Australians will feel comfortable that no foreign student can take up their jobs. Student visa is just for the entry to that country. People actually go there to earn money. Do you think that education in Australia is better than in India?

If this is indeed the way the Australians feel, why do they have a foreign workers import program and a foreign student program?
Why can't they shut down their entire visa and immigration program?
Problem will be solved once and for all.
Better yet, stop all foreigners from even entering the country - no tourist visa, no student visa, no immigration.
They will be very happy in their world Down Under.
And of course Ricky Ponting and Symonds can play with each other and and have a perfect gentlemen's game.



Yes, programs and rules were established at some point. And believe it or not, people used to come back after their temporary visits to foreign countries. (Remember, our parents' generation?). Not anymore, many are so hellbent on misusing, abusing and breaking the rules and system that measures have to be taken to amend the loopholes in the set system and programs. There is a reason why these programs are called "foreign workers import program" not "permanent or resident import program"



pakeeza   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-06-09 17:34:55

Racist Indians indeed. Lets tell that to the descendents of indentured slaves in Carribean or to the Indians expelled from Uganda and other countries.

Yeah, filthy talk(like Kallu, Chinky, gora etc) is morallly equivalent to denying jobs based on race or beating up people based on their colour or expelling them from countries.



We treat foreigners like dirt when compared to locals.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/aug/11aus.htm



parth1970   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-06-09 17:59:12

I didn’t see the racist behavior among Indian, I do agree that they are treating others base on Money or power you have, it doesn’t matter which cast or color you have Just drive nice car in front of the store and enter the store “you will recognize how you will be treated”. Similar while traveling by train or going to any office, if you are Dress-up well you will be treated differently.

Try to enter any nice office, store or Hotel with “slipper” most of the time it is hard to cross the security guard. Next day just drive there with “Tuxedo” guard will open both door and Manager will jump out from his office. It this behavior resists? It is wrong but I don’t think it is resist. In India if you are poor you have to suffer, if you have money/power you can live like king no matter which cast or color you have, this may be wrong but not resist.

Now try to go any store, restaurant, office in Europe (specially North Italy, French, and Switzerland etc.), you have a money you are going to pay sometimes more than the local, but watch there behavior. This is call resist.

Again I am not saying everyone in Europe are resist, there are nice people living there I have a good friend in Italy, Germany, Denmark, Ones they know you long enough there behavior is change and they may be nice with you.

Parth


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blorean   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-09 08:48:29

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Originally posted by febpreet

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Originally posted by blorean

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Originally posted by meghal

Somehow, there is also a view point going on as to how Indians are racist themselves and hence should not complain about racist attacks

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/jugglebandhi/entry/we-re-even-more-racist

I do not think in India, you get attacked because of your skin colour. And just because Indians are supposedly racist means they should be tolerant of the indifference shown to them.



Why is this even such a surprise? Indians are the biggest racists I have met so far in my life.

"Arey woh gora na saala..."
"Abe ye chingee saale log bhi na..."
"yaar bas tu kallu logon se door raho..."

Disgusting. Pathetic. Very very sad.

And yet we are the first to cry when the finger is pointed at us...yuck!

I do agree that this does not necessarily mean that we should tolerate any such treatment ourselves but there is something to be said about losing one's credence while making a case against a charge that one has been tried for many times before.



So, it means according to you 'Russell Peters' is a biggest racist ever born, right? Having fun like what you mentioned and attacking others physically are two distinct traits. Also, two wrongs can never make right. As others pointed out, as long as I am not attacking anyone physically or verbally, they don't have ANY right to attack me based on my skin color.



Dude come on...I thought you were better than this :)

Don't drag stand-up comedians into this...everything becomes fuzzy.


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febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-06-09 11:28:42

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Dude come on...I thought you were better than this :)

Don't drag stand-up comedians into this...everything becomes fuzzy.



I guess, you started it...lol



web2000   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-06-09 13:03:38

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Quote:
Originally posted by web2000
As long as students can return back home after study in Australia, all such problems will be gone. Australians will feel comfortable that no foreign student can take up their jobs. Student visa is just for the entry to that country. People actually go there to earn money. Do you think that education in Australia is better than in India?

If this is indeed the way the Australians feel, why do they have a foreign workers import program and a foreign student program?
Why can't they shut down their entire visa and immigration program?
Problem will be solved once and for all.
Better yet, stop all foreigners from even entering the country - no tourist visa, no student visa, no immigration.
They will be very happy in their world Down Under.
And of course Ricky Ponting and Symonds can play with each other and and have a perfect gentlemen's game.



Try to differentiate between immigration visa and student visa, then come back.

As long as student visa is not convertible to immigration visa then who cares. Student will study at his/her own expenses and will not tamper the rights of the citizens which is unfortunately not happening.

If they want to become immigrant, then they should be allowed to apply outside of the country and must leave the country first.





Iknownothing   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 429
Location: Ohio

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-06-09 15:52:25

Quote:
Originally posted by web2000


Try to differentiate between immigration visa and student visa, then come back.

As long as student visa is not convertible to immigration visa then who cares. Student will study at his/her own expenses and will not tamper the rights of the citizens which is unfortunately not happening.

If they want to become immigrant, then they should be allowed to apply outside of the country and must leave the country first.





And why exactly do you think that changing from one legal status to another while being in the country should not be allowed?




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