chandresh-- change of heart or different person


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transmogrifier   
Member since: Aug 05
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Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 11:00:06

Quote:
Orginally posted by chandresh

Quote:
Orginally posted by ptm



06-09-05 07:21:16

transmogrifier
Desi


, being like one

global moderator, whose English ekdum mast



Thnaks a ton my friend - it is a great compliment to a person who read his first English story book in grade 11!

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Chandresh


Most welcome for compliment. Others also tolding your angrezi top.
I am confusing. You paatshaalah in India, S'pore or other place studying? You using word 'grade'.This is Amrica and Canada only used, I am 'thunking', arey dekho BL, tere ko salaam.In HK they are using 'class' in India 'standard'. So where you study where they use 'grade', or only u use as so used to using here in Canada with children that u changing from 'standard' to 'grade'.


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ptm   
Member since: Jul 05
Posts: 213
Location: india

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 11:00:38

Hi PMA,
Thanks. I have sent you a mail.

ptm



transmogrifier   
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Posts: 408
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 11:01:42

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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic

Racism is something that ceases with time. It may not have completely vanished, but it is certainly not overt. Most cases where people use that as an excuse is not true.
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Arey, tere moon mein ghee shakar, boss!
Cease to me meaning complete stop. To yeh 'racism is something that ceases with time' kab hoga? Koi time frame hai, boss? 10 years, 20 years, 100 years or at Ragnarok?


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ptm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 11:11:11

transmogrifier,

apki hinglish badi mast hai. phadkar maja ajata hai



DiogenestheCynic   
Member since: Oct 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 12:15:10

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Orginally posted by Azazf
They are still opinions true, but when you are a moderator for whatsoever reason the expectations of members are a little differentand you are required to behave in a little bit more dignified manner


I am afraid, I do not agree with this special characterization of "moderator".

Being a moderator is nothing more than taking on the responsibility to ensure that posters and their posts remain within a certain set of rules at all times.

It is also true that if a moderator does more than this, then he/she is stepping outside limits.

Beyond this, a moderator is no different than any other partcipant on the board and what goes for others goes for him too.
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Orginally posted by Azazf
You would not want your leader or your manager making blanket statements.


That is where you seem to be mistaken. A moderator is not a leader. Neither should it be expected of him, nor should he behave like one. Both are equally wrong concepts!

A message board is not an organization. It is only a forum for discussion within a framework of specified rules. A few specified members of the forum, called "moderators", have volunteered to take on the responsibility of ensuring that those rules are not violated. That's all!

Therefore expecting anything more from a moderator is askew.
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Orginally posted by Azazf
Even BL was among the ones who was not very kind with his words ....


BL, or any other moderator for that matter, can be as kind with his words as anyone else. As I said, why does he have to be any different than any of the rest.

However, if the moderator abuses his responsibility and behaves in a manner that is unjust or uses his privileges to settle personal scores, then that is wrong too.


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ptm   
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Posts: 213
Location: india

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 12:31:54

Diogenes,
you have said that i have not raised any point but in my very first post in the thread i have raised the point about impact of post and requested to modify the article in greater intersts of prospective and struglling immigrants. I cannot force chandresh to do that though i made a humbel request.


ptm



DiogenestheCynic   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-09-05 13:33:48

Quote:
Orginally posted by mercury6
Actually that raises a point. If one is going to post an article, it should be as objective as possible.


It is good to be objective. But objectivity is not possible at all times.

As an example, let us say the medical systems and facilities at some place are considered the best. Infant mortality rates are amongst the lowest and figures and statistics are bandied about in support of that.

So far so good. But if my infant child is hospitalized for treatment and dies, and I believe that it was the hospital’s fault, all that objectivity goes out the window! My views change overnight. Under the circumstances, if I advise others not to go that hospital for treatment of their infants, am I wrong? If I write an article and hold the hospital responsible for my child’s death, and caution others, am I immoral or misleading?

Objectivity therefore, quite often gets affected by personal experiences.
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Orginally posted by mercury6
Thats why I never put in anything. I know I cant be objective. I could just tell it like it is, the truth as per me. But that would be misleading to others.

A post in the discussion section can over time sink out of sight. But the Article section is there always on the home page for all to read.


IMO, it is wrong to have a section like “ARTICLES” on a message board. A message board is a forum for discussion, and should restrict itself to just that.

By putting up articles with featured access, the board exhibits bias or prejudice. If it allows mutually contradictory write-ups, it may lead to confusion.

Since the purpose of a message board is discussion and exchange of views between individuals on a dynamic level, the board should be used only for that. The board itself has no business promoting any specific agenda or opinions.

All posts, comments, opinions etc, whether negative or positive should be given equal credit. The board is a dynamic environment, with people having different views and opinions on any subject. The board should be nothing more than a facility for sharing and exchanging them.

The participants are free to assimilate and responsible for what they conclude from such discussions. It is not for the board to be a guiding beacon of light and be a source of evidence or advice on any subject.

Let the participants fight, squabble, agree, argue, contradict or comply amongst themselves when discussing issues and let the members draw their own conclusions.
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Orginally posted by mercury6
Did Chandresh's view re racism change? Is racism less or more now than 3 years ago?
Same question about the other points made in the article.


Again, views on racism are something that are dependent on personal experiences. Until now I never had an occurrence indicative of racism, and people could say all they want that there is no racism, but if I had even one experience of racism, my view would change and for me racism would become rampant.
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Orginally posted by mercury6
BTW, I was not aware of this article till PTM started this thread, I guess i missed that part of the home page.


I still don’t know where the said article lives.


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