I wish to take this a little further please guys ........ for my own information and for evey else s 2 reach a pragmatic unbiased view .

Firstly its not true that in the absence of MKG we wudnt have attained freedom ----- there s a time n cause for everything and other countries have also attained their freedom sans a Gandhi .

Secondly even Lenin s structure and doctrine were uprooted decades after he revolutionised Russia .

By no means any offence to a man regarded as one of the greatest in the century but just debating a little bit more .

1. Is it true that while Sardar Patel was favored 2 b the PM by every1 Gandhi g alone stood for Nehru and cited an excuse for unity in making him the PM ?

2. Is it true that while India was getting partitioned Gandhi g was in Calcutta ?

3. Is it true that Gandhi g instructed Nehru to change the name of his son in law from Feroze Khan to Feroze Gandhi after his mother s maiden name Ghandi ?

4. How much are Nehru and Gandhi g responsible for Kahmir burning 2day? Was it easier for India 2 govern Kashmir right form start?

5.Nehru - Jinnah were in congress then why did Jinnah join Muslim league. Why did MKG not persuade him to curb his political ambitions.

However Partition was in India s favor undoubtedly ........... read b/w the lines .

Manasvi .

Manasvi, You are wasting your breath! These people don't possess the intellect necessary to analyze issues objectively, they have to make everything a personal vendetta. Getting them to argue an issue based solely on facts is next to impossible.

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-- I've read all there is to read about MKG. It's you that needs the education. By the way, I am speaking for the "Majority", if you get my drift.

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I dont mind reading more about MKG, he is a treasure.
BTW, majority means greater, more than.......I hope you uderstood meaning of majority now and dont have to go back educating yourself.

*** Jago Desi, Your English Sucks, Your Spellings are terrible and Your Grammar is appalling. Don't talk to me about education before you learn to at least use a Spell Checker on your posts ***

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-- Thank You. It is not the best I can do, but for now it'll work

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Probably if MKG was never born, today you would have been standing next to british gora saheb table waiting for him to finish delicious lunch so that you can tidy up table for mad'm saheeb...........

*** As I said, mediocre mentality to the boot. Yeesh! ***

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Man, some of the stuff in this discussion sounds so highschool, its not even funny.

DT, you can add me to the list of people here who agree to disagree with you on this one. Blaming Gandhi for all of India's problems is plain naive. Sure, you may choose not to agree with some of his stuff (as I don't as well), but to put the blame squarely on him for India/Pak problems and to assume that India would be some superpower above the states if not for Gandhi sounds rather amateurish. And frankly, its denial speaking.

Of course Gandhi is not the only man responsible for India's freedom. There is a looong list of others who played their roles which ultimately lead to it. Gandhi was however the only person who brought India together as ONE country against the British. Nobody else was able to do that and without that independence would have taken much longer. There was no united voice against the British because there was no ONE India prior to independence (even now, its a very divided country). Every other approach in the book had been tried however the forces trying them never had mass backing like Gandhi did. And that is what made a difference. And that is why he's considered as the Father of the nation, he was the only guy who could bring it all together. And as far as his flaws go, he was only human. And the first one to admit it. Read some of his works with an open mind and you'll know.

And revisionists may try, I don't think his legacy can ever be altered. Prime proof is this commercial and I still think its an awesome one.

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Manasvi, You are wasting your breath! These people don't possess the intellect necessary to analyze issues objectively, they have to make everything a personal vendetta. Getting them to argue an issue based solely on facts is next to impossible.
-------- OK, stay in your shell and keep preaching your ancestor's views -- other than Nehru and Jinnah there were bunch of people power hungry are you decendent of one of that clan -----------

*** Jago Desi, Your English Sucks, Your Spellings are terrible and Your Grammar is appalling. Don't talk to me about education before you learn to at least use a Spell Checker on your posts ***
-------- what else, you are short of any more ancestor's ideas ---------

*** As I said, mediocre mentality to the boot. Yeesh! ***
--------Happy to be mediocre mentality person. To undertand MKG, person has to be mediocre. You are far off my level, I dont wish to fall to that position -----------

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Manasvi, You are wasting your breath! These people don't possess the intellect necessary to analyze issues objectively, they have to make everything a personal vendetta. Getting them to argue an issue based solely on facts is next to impossible.

#####Look who got personal, who tried to say something about someone elses grammar? #####

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-- I've read all there is to read about MKG. It's you that needs the education. By the way, I am speaking for the "Majority", if you get my drift.

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I dont mind reading more about MKG, he is a treasure.
BTW, majority means greater, more than.......I hope you uderstood meaning of majority now and dont have to go back educating yourself.

*** Jago Desi, Your English Sucks, Your Spellings are terrible and Your Grammar is appalling. Don't talk to me about education before you learn to at least use a Spell Checker on your posts ***

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########this is personal see what I mean. how can someone who doesnt know the meaning of majority tell someone else to check their grammar . #######