I am not coming to Canada, No no - Coming Now!
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Dear All,

The most awaited day, for which I waited for 3 years came in my life and I WAS NOT HAPPY. I got the waiver on 18th June. Let me list out the reasons,

1 Canadiandesi.com, after reading so many posts I came to know about the reality prevailing at this time.

2 My family, I do not want my family to be broken. My parents are above 70 now and I am the only son.

3 My present financial & professional status in India. I and my wife both work in the booming finance sector in India and the joint income is touching almost 8 lakhs P.A. Net take home comes to almost 55 K.

Let me tell you, I do wish to see the world, earn more money and face new challenges, BUT NOT AT THE COST OF MY PRESENT. I live in PRESENT and I feel, that is stronger in my case then any other ambitions.

I gave myself 5 options, and after analyzing each and every minute thing attached, I finally selected the 4th option. And that means I am not coming to Canada for settlement.

Here are the 5 options

1 We both Go there, wind up everything here, do part time jobs, study further and start struggling to settle. And most importantly pray to god, that within these 2/3 years, nothing should happen to my family members (major health issues), otherwise, we would have to come back and would ultimately result in to major financial and TIME LOSS.

2 My wife continues here, I reach Canada, do the same thing without her and try calling her after I settle. And then family members can start coming on visitor visas till we reach to a stage of sponsoring them).

3 Completely forget the project and firmly accept to stay in India and grow further. I would even save some 2 lakhs, which is required to be paid before leaving (Rs. 67300 (RCMP) + 65500 (AGENT fees) + 60000 (AIR TICKEST). These two lakhs can once again enable us to re-gain the Indian luxuries like car/ac etc..(I SOLD MY CAR ETC..To cope up with the project's fund requirement).

4 Fourth, which I thought to be more intense one right now, i.e. I go there for 15/20 days alone, take my PR and reach back India. I had long discussions with my boss and leaves up to 20/30 days should not be a problem. With this we would loose 162800 (except my wife's air ticket everything is same as above), but we will take that as investment for future. Because with PR holding, in future I am keeping the option open, or our kids can have their future option open. At least the doors would not be closed for us for ever. After reaching back, we would re-engage ourselves with our Indian work routine and start saving for future. If I do not get what I should be after 2/3 years in my growth path here, at least I can re-open the option of Canada.

5 "We both go together, get the PR, I come back and resume in my duties. My wife stays back with her cousin and start looking for a job (I am yet to check the technicality involved, as whether Principal applicant can come back without SPOUSE). Because at least one positive factor in majority, I have found that females do get jobs fast. If she can sustain for a period of 6 months, I can then join her with more savings. This is a reverse scene then point - 2, but the advantage is that the bigger part of current income is continued. Only my wife's salary loss would take place ,which can be easily replaced by her any part time call centre or banking job in Canada.


Finally I selected the no. 4 option and that too, we both would go in APRIL - 2005 for 20 days and come back with PR. Hence we would have our 5 years clock beginning from 2005. I could have gone alone right now, but when we have an opportunity then why we should not go together for 20 days on a vacation and come back.

I thought of sharing this, as I know there are so many like me in the queue. I seek your valued inputs now, whether you agree/endorse to my decision or not.

Regards,

VJ


And now I changed my decision:


I know, this is going to catch a huge FIRE. But yes, today at this moment I have no doubt whatsoever, that "I AM COMING TO CANADA". I know lot of people (more then 6000 views to my earlier post of NOT COMING TO CANADA), would react in different ways. Some will say, Kya ho gaya, pahele na bolta tha, why he is coming, or some will say, aa gaya na line pe?

But, that’s the way it is. So many things I wrote in my replies about justifications at each step of my decision. But since few days, it’s been a battle of lot of thoughts. Lot of reality based factors. Lot of professional factors. However the reason remains the same as I once again repeat, I always go on three factors "STHAL (PLACE), "SANJOG (CIRCUIMSTANCE) and SAMAY (TIME).

Why I am coming (On personal factors)

I still remember a scene of a Hindi movie called "Dilwale Dulhaniya le jayenge", it was ANUPAM KHER, the father talking to SHAHRUKH KHAN, the son. Shahrukh khan requests Anupam that he wants to go to EUROPE for vacation and first he says no. But listening that the SON decides not to go, he immediately says nahi "TUJE EUROPE JARUR JANA HAI, APNE LIYE NAHI TO MERE LIYE, TUJE MERI JAWANI JINI HAI".

The point is sometimes, one generation has to sacrifice for many more to come. It happens actually, especially in our Indian culture. My father was a simple, small-time Govt. servant. Daily in the morning he used to paddle his HERO CHAMP (I remember the moped name) and slowly at the speed of 30 KPH, he would reach his office and in the evening, I used to wait for him and see him coming back in the same tilted way of sitting on the moped. He worked for 37 long years at the same place. He did manage to bring us up. I had a 100 % physically handicapped sister, who recently died. I have other 2 sisters, who got married within the last 3 years. He got retired in 92 and I had to take over, and that too without completing my Graduation. I could do only a small DIPLOMA. SO today I am once again like my father making two ends meet.

So when I used to see that 3rd or 4th page of my passport since last few days with a WHITE STMAP on it, written as "CANADA VISA", I used to do a lot of SELF TALK. What should I do for my next generation to come? I think I am fighting for myself right now, not for my future generations to come. We owe a lot to the coming world. What I feel is every person, who is the bread winner of his family must have a progressive thinking. Progressive is like X+1 (with a vision of next 2 generations). THE BOTTOMLINE IS I WANT TO CREATE A VERY STRONG UNBREAKABLE PLATFORM FOR MY FAMILY MEMBERS (MY KIDS, MY SISTER’S KIDS AND OTHERS) BY EARNING MORE IN A PLACE LIKE CANADA.

Why I am coming (On professional factors)

Recently I got promoted and I came to kutch. I am always attached to a place called BHUJ, which is my native. Somehow after the earthquake and after my survival from the earthquake (as me and my wife do not want to remember the date 26th Jan, I am not writing much about the experience), I took a decision of coming to KUTCH. Now the place for the base station is GANDHIDHAM. And let me tell you its one of the most horrible places I have ever experienced in my life, DUST, POILLUTION, TRANSPORT, WATER, ELECTRICTY PROBLEM, LANGUAGE, MENTALITY OF PEOPLE what not…I generally fit my self in any condition. But this town makes me crazy. Can you believe every night when you finally sleep after a hectic work schedule of 14 hours, Electricity goes off for 3,4,5 hours. My wife and I literally do not sleep. I work in a private insurance company as a branch manager with income more then 6 lakhs P.A and my wife is an ASST MANAGER with a bank earning more then 2.5 lakhs P.A. Can you believe with this kind of income, we can live a king-size life. BUT THIS PLACE CALLED GANDHIDHAM IS NOTHING FOR US. You can’t even breathe well. I can't leave being a senior before 2 years.

So that’s the story so far, I know I may have lot of reactions from you all, but my decision is final now “I AM COMING, NOT FOR THE PRESENT BUT FOR THE FUTURE”

I would surely contribute further on this. I wanted to convey my feeling and the decision, hence I have not written full.


VJ



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deepcb   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 142
Location: Dubai

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-08-04 06:26:00

Mr. Lobster,

7 successful people is good news, but what about 200,000 migration per year, where most of them are highly qualified people.

Canada requires skilled LABOURS who can speak good English and are hardworking.

I have not seen a WELDER, MECHANIC, TRAILER DRIVER, CRANE OPERATOR, X Ray Technician migrated from India unemployed in Canada.

There are hundreds of Engineers / Doctors/ Ph.D's unemployed and doing menial jobs.

How pathetic? Canada should not lure people into Immigration. Canada encourages only professional people because only Graduates and educated people from India meets their English requirement and Financial capabilities.

Once they reach Canada, who cares whether the Ph.D is doing Janitorial jobs?????

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Deep


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ETH   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 19
Location: Dubai

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-04 04:24:59

Hi VJ,

I had been to Canada last year just to fetch my PR card. It is worth try. Anyway we have to face the reality once we decide to take up the challenge. How bad it may be it is always better to keep options open.

Like you when I got my Visa, I was doing very good at my job, now things are changing very fast and I am very happy that I have one option still open.

Enjoy your trip to Canada and all the best.





VJ   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 441
Location: Mississauga-Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-04 06:16:14

Hi ETH,

Thanks for your input. Can you tell me more about your actual experience. I mean when did you go?, for how many days? what were your observations?

Are you planning to go back again? What is the scene at your end.

Rgds

VJ



Sherepunjab   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 3
Location: Missisauga, Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-04 06:29:03

:cheers:
Dear boncan,

i have just read your article. I am in absolute agreement with you, concerning the positive attitude one has to adopt, while making preparations for landing or while you are there. You are correct,while saying that this site is mainly addressed with too much of negativity.

Prior to choosing immigration to any country, one must define as to what are their individual and family objectives. In addition they must list out as to whats expected out of this new country. You may be asked to leave an existing comfort zone, for a place that provides you quality of life. Struggle is everywhere in today's life. One must cultivate a networking of positive attitude people and thats the way to go about it.

thanks

sherepunjab



ETH   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 19
Location: Dubai

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-04 06:40:42


Hi VJ,

I had been to Calgary first in May-2003. I stayed there couple of days in a hotel with my wife & kid. Then I went to Winnipeg and finally to Toronto. I stayed in Canada for total 35 days and really enjoyed my trip. Finally I got my PR card and returned back.

I liked Canada very much for obvious reasons and I will go again in 2006 just before 3 years deadline.

As you have seen so many replies to your topic, there are good and bad things and it is upto each individual to make a better choice. It is not an easy task. I remember when I first landed in Dubai, I had been through same intial phase of job hunting, descrimination, no recognition for educatiion etc. I will face the same again when I start in Canada.

Take Care




Sherepunjab   
Member since: Aug 04
Posts: 3
Location: Missisauga, Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-08-04 06:41:25

Dera Blue lobster,

With regard to UK immigration, i must add here that education at the school level is at its lowest level. Most of the asians are sending their children to their home countries for elementary education. The discrimination can be seen across the board.

Though HSMP programme looks to be lucrative, it hs its own loopholes. The problem in our lives is that we are not happy with what we have with us. Lets live today and enjoy at its best.

thanks

sherepunjab



rajand   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 601
Location: Baroda, India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-08-04 06:52:01

Hi VJ,

Raining heavily & wife alone at home, I understand why you would want to rush home.

Enjoy!

Rgds.


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