Is Income Tax Filing mandatory on soft landing?


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Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-17 14:12:42

You have all the answers from prior posters. Plus you have the two links too, which provide you with clarifications. So, you are right on top of it.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/ndvdls/nnrs-eng.html
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/cmmn/rsdncy-eng.html&lt;/font>

Requesting for a PR seems to be the only link and their desire to land and stay with in Canada is the next reason that gets weighed in their entry into Canada.

NOT Having a SIN card disables the link to CRA and their tax system. So, they will not be asked to pay any tax here in Canada. Just as one of the poster mentions here, if the issue of a NUMBER and and a SIN Card is not automatic, then that issue is also mute. So, no need to worry there too.

You also seem to know the DTAA rules on taxation. So, if they are paying taxes elsewhere and account for their income and the taxes called for on such an income, then they are very safe not even approaching that issue with in Canada.

Only link currently any one has is the ADDRESS at which they will get their PR Cards. So, watch out for any mail that is addressed to them to that address.

Now to the final one..: Having landed here they can leave their entry open for a period of FIVE Good years after the date of landing here. That gives them the free entry without any queries, as long as they have their PR Cards on them and while booking a ticket for their flight or at the Borders for their crosing.

The surrendering of their PR status enters the picture, at a period, at the end of Five years and you can bring that issue to the forefront at that time. Also that currently will be a long and drawn out paper work. The rules do change and so does the process. Currently it is a very murky process. You have the choice so decide upon the route.

Until such time that your Parents are ready to surrender, enjoy the PR Status.

Good Luck.

Hope this answers your query.


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Originally posted by Tony Arora

May I seek your guidance and help for the following matters.

My parents will land here in Canada next month as immigrants (parents and grandparents category), and will stay here around 3 weeks and then go back to their employment. They are working in a country that has Double Taxation Avoidance Agreement (DTAA) with Canada which states that the income (salaries) to be taxed in the state where it is received.

Currently, they are not sure to settle in Canada or not. Apart from PR card, they intend to keep no other ties with Canada, till the time if they decide to settle here (may be 3-4 years down the line)

My queries are:
•Is it mandatory to file income tax returns even after soft landing of 3 weeks or one can file the ITR when one decides to finally settle here?
•Can they bring any amount of money later when they decide to settle here without any Income tax related issue?
•In a situation, when they do not file returns for all these years after landing and also do not stay here and decide not to settle here, can they gift their assets/money to their children without and IT issue?

Please accept my sincere thanks and kind regards in advance.



Tony Arora   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-17 14:26:43

Thank you very much Mr. Full House.
Your detailed response definitely helps and I truly appreciate your excellent narrative way of answering.
Thank you once again.



icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-17 23:06:22

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Originally posted by Tony Arora

Thanks a million dear ICAME for covering answer to all the queries in a concise and clear way.

Just one more query. Will my parents surrender of their PR impact their chances of getting tourist or super visa later.

Thanking all in advance.



No they won't have any issues as long as the PR is renounced and surrendered properly.

Even the expired PR has to be surrendered and renounced before they can apply for a super visa or visitor visa. The embassy will try hard and ask you to keep the PR and renew it, but insist on surrendering it. See thread below

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/applying-for-visit-visa-after-pr-card-has-expired.125315/


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icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-17 23:21:05

PR card, Canadian Citizenship is more of a burden than anything else, contrary to popular opinion.

Filing tax returns in 2 countries, selling property, income in other countries all this becomes a headache, as CRA and Canada want's their cut. So lot of things you have to do under the Radar.

Don't tell Canada anything about your job, income, asset and properties in other country. This is your hard earned money before you came to Canada and Canada has nothing to do with it, and none of their business.

This broke ass and bankrupt country likes to prey on immigrant's money and will be more than happy to tax and take a cut of your wealth and assets abroad. So the less they know, the better. As it is more than half your money here in Canada will go in Income Tax, Property Tax, HST and other hidden taxes and fees. Isn't that enough ? That they even want a chunk of your assets/money in India ?


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sudesingh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-17 23:50:44

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Originally posted by Tony Arora

I express my sincere thanks to Mr. Sude Singh answering the queries.

Regarding receiving PR card before leaving Canada, I will courier these to them once ready. A small risk of getting PR delayed due to photo or some other issue is always there. Let us hope for the best.


You missed my point. I know one should think positively, but at the same time be prepared for the worst. I said what if, they are called for a re-take of the photograph, or what-if they're called to pick-up the PR card in person. The only way for them to re-enter the country is to apply a temporary permit.


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Originally posted by Tony Arora
Regarding filing the tax in Canada, my understanding is that as my parents stay in another country for indefinite period of time and even may not settle here in Canada; further more they have not established any kind of residential ties with Canada and so will qualify as non-resident Canadians for tax purpose till the time they become residents and establish residential ties in Canada.

My research shows that Non-resident Canadians are taxed on the income from Canadian sources only and not on the worldwide income. My sense is that my parents need not even file the tax returns as neither they will have to pay any tax nor will claim any refund/benefits from Canada. I would request from all of you if you could opine on the above subject or to verify its correctness.

References:
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/ndvdls/nnrs-eng.html
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/nnrsdnts/cmmn/rsdncy-eng.html</font>


I suggest you review Step 2: Determine your residency status and its tax implications in the second link you provided. To be truly considered as a NR, one should apply for a NR status.

In this case your parent will not have established any residential ties, but I don't think they'll be considered as an NR. Again best to check with the authorities. We can advise you, but CRA will have the final word.

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Originally posted by icame

Not sure if they are automatically enrolled and an application for SIN is automatically made, when they land at the airport.

In case its not automatically applied, don't even bother applying for the SIN, even less residential ties to Canada.



These days a SIN is issued at the airport when you land, so not applying is not an option. But having a SIN does not mean you have residential ties.



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icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-05-17 00:04:25

Some of the benefits available to Seniors are OAS, GIS, Social Assistance, ODSP. Also Take quarterly HST credits and monthly Ontario Trillium Benefit ( OTB ) also.

Make full use of the FREE medicare in Canada also, so if they have prescription drugs, surgeries, operations get them done in Canada. Use Canada at every opportunity you get, as they are doing the same. Tit for Tat.

All the above things are your right and you are paying exhorbitant income and property taxes for them, so don't feel ashamed to make full use of them. Your parents should also not be ashamed to exercise their rights and claim all the above.

Make full use of them, so your parent's are NOT dependent on you for their expenses or dip into their own savings from India which are in Rs. and converted to Canadian dollars, so will be exhausted fast. It will be their own money from the Canadian gov. The Canadian gov. in return got that money from taxpayer's like you.

http://canadianimmigrant.ca/family/seniors/helping-immigrant-seniors-understand-how-they-can-access-social-security-benefits


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icame   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-05-17 00:08:39

As far as possible tell your parents not to bring a penny of their hard earned money in Rs. from India into Canada. Keep that as a safety net in India. Canada has no right over that money and has nothing to do with it.

But whatever they can get from Canada over here, try to take it. Its paid for by immigrants like you, who have been looted by Canada. So just your money that you are getting back.


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