Confusion - is it really worth immigrating to Canada?


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bhootnath   
Member since: Mar 11
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-06-13 12:35:10

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Originally posted by ramar2005

unless of course they owe some money to the immigration consultant and the Canadian government in their previous birth.



lol
Are you still carrying Canadian passport with the intent of taking revenge similar to what TK's plans are?
If so I don't need to write long posts to prove the Hypocrisy.

Quote:
Originally posted by ramar2005

He had already dumped a well paying job, his close relatives and friends assuming that people around in Canada will be good to him.


Further explaination of aircraft comparison to immigration makes it more humorous! only a naïve person who dumps his/her friends n family have the expectations that people around in Canada will be good to him/her.


It's human tendency to find execuse, in fact blame others, for their actions and accordingly failures. In the childhood blame teachers,friends and conditions for getting less percentage, in adulthood blame parents for the failed life and now blame Canadian govt for failed career.



Delhite   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 938
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-06-13 17:15:40

Few things the aspiring immigrants need to understand and accept that:
1. They have to leave their back home jobs, friends and relatives.
2. They have to start from scratch.
3. They may have to go for education update.
4. They may have to go for a career change.
5. They have to work really hard to make their standing.
6. Canadian Govt will not provide you job according to your skills but you have to adjust/upgrade your skills according to the available jobs.
7. The first one year will be an emotionally roller-coaster ride. You may go so low and depressed that you want to cry but can’t so you may prefer to go to shower, turn on the water and cry. This is true for most of us.
8. After one year, you will feel better – two reasons, first, the situation will improve a little bit and second, you will get used to it.
If any of above is not acceptable to you, don’t even think of immigration.


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7seasfar   
Member since: Mar 12
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-06-13 02:40:56

Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite
8. After one year, you will feel better – two reasons, first, the situation will improve a little bit and second, you will get used to it.
If any of above is not acceptable to you, don’t even think of immigration.


True, the most honest & transparent reply. "For some, situations do improve, but for the rest it doesn't, and they get used to the new reality."

I believe you should have some representation in immigration canada, so people do not feel cheated (or misguided) after reaching Canada.
Don't worry, there are lot of people who aren't doing well and are fed-up with their existing country due to lack of opportunity/war/threat/relatives abroad/etc. & want a way out. For them Canada may be a possible destination. But for those who are doing very well, socially connected, well settled, should not quit & jump the immigration bandwagon. Over the last decade things have changed in favor of India.

Several immigrants live a life of hell in basements with negligible sun-light, being exploited by landlords, employment agencies, supervisors at work (if there's any), & doing jobs classified as General Labour, and are forced to living on a hand-to-mouth budget.
Off course, there are few lucky who prosper and end-up doing well; but most don't and accept the new reality as a part of their destiny. Its human nature to look for reasons like free schooling/ infrastructure/etc to justify their decision to immigrate. Its a one-way-street for almost all immigrants.

I am no one to recommend, what one should do? or shouldn't do?
Immigrate or not is entirely your personal discretion. But, should you choose to immigrate, one shouldn't be in an illusion.



Many   
Member since: May 13
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-06-13 01:21:04

The in-depth post above when coupled with the advices from Elmer fudd and Delhite, capture the essence; honest, heart-felt advice on the subject.


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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-06-13 11:19:53

We should be concerned with men with good education and in well paying jobs, married with wife and kid(s), applying for immigration. If he does not like his current job in India or the city, better to look out for an alternate job or town, than to think about immigration to Canada. Even if none of these alternatives are OK, he can go for self-employment, but never should immigrate to Canada.

There are vested interests, like people who partition their house into different portions and let out for new immigrants, driving school people, immigration consultants and their salesmen, who always need new landed immigrants for their enterprise, who may present a different picture. They always need a reservoir and every year pipe line of immigrants.

The Canadian government with just about a 4 crore population for its huge landmass needs more people to fill in their subway and bus transit systems, more people to swarm the malls and buy this and that to run the economy.

But nobody is interested as to how the immigrant will find his work and income to maintain himself and his family. Literally it is his fate and his funeral.

We actually cannot blame anyone individual, but the system. Will we like somebody from Canada or any other developed country roam around in Mumbai or Chennai searching for job and settle down? Yes but only people like real estate agents and other salesmen. Others will look at them as only their competitors.


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loveall   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 7
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-06-13 13:07:26

I am posting one of the old post of one CD member in which he describes his experience of settling in Canada , his struggle and various issues he faced during his first year. Read this with pinch of a salt but at the same time I think he has nailed it, at the same time I am wondering where is this CD member today ? Please other CD members please do not attack me as this is not my post. Thanks for reading :-)

Here it goes.

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One year! It seems that it is a big achievement in the life! I would love to put my thoughts on it.

What we did in this first year? I am looking back to see have we gain anything or we are just on the looser side? I am not negative but you have to be a good judge and can't keep only good things on the paper.

The first day or rather night was good here. Forovan (Highway 401) took us to the Scarborough from Airport in the
evening around 7.00 PM after KLM's tiring journey. The city lights were amazing (or looked amazing at that time). The night was sleepless! You know lot of worry!

Next morning we were taken by our kind host to Scarborough Civic Center. The queue was long. Long enough to indicate us that how many people are coming to this country every day. Long enough to encourage us that when so many people are coming here we haven't made any mistake! And long enough to discourage us that we have to face stiff competition from all these new immigrants. Of course the line was showing faces from all over the world.

The second day was not bad. At least it was better than rest of the days. After our eyes were settled after looking at the lights and glamour of Scarborough Center and other malls,
I was advised to start looking for a job - a labor job! I was shocked - man! I am a Civil Engineer, was in charge of a division in Narmada and you are asking me to do
labor job!! He must be kidding I said to myself. Or he must be underestimating my skills.

Then came the shocks with the list of people doing labor jobs - Civil Engineers, Computer Engineers, MBAs, Mechanical Engineers. People gave example of people working in factory who were getting 50,000 Rupees salary in India per month. My wife told me to go back. I also thought for a while. Yes, she is right, we should go back. But when it came to a decision, lot of things came to mind - what people will tell, why so many people are still in Canada, There must be some hopes etc.

And after sleepless nights of about a week, I came out of frustration. It was good. I was prepared to do labor job.

And my journey started with lifting boxes.

A Year!! It is over. It is over and we are happy though it was like a nightmare!! Five jobs in a year and two layoffs, good enough to get Canadian Experience. My wife - who never came out of our home at India to cut boxes and fill bottles of glue and sorted old dirty clothes - no choice we had to meet ends!!

Achievements?

A Car. One old 1988 Honda which is noisy and giving me lot of trouble! What can I do for that? I want to change it but money? Those stupid apartment owners and ruthless government is taking major portion of our salary!! And if it is not enough the insurance companies are also not behind.
3000 dollars of amount just in Car insurance!! How strange!! Who manages this country - OK in India we have 33 Crore God to take care, here only Jesus!!

A trip to Niagara can be an achievement and a trip to Wonderland also. When the whole country is Wonder why should we not see one piece of land called Wonderland.

And those doctors, oh god, who fools giving this country best country rating? So
slow doctors, hospitals and asking for blood test for each every small problems. Who is handling it?

One trip to New York City was good. Was able to see World Trade Center! Great memories.

Conclusion?

After a year we are on the looser side. The moral is down, the education is ruined,
English is garbage, religion is at risk, eagerness to learn new things - where is new
labor job?

What is good in this country? A Highly Educated Labor Force in the World!


Amen
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Delhite   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 938
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-06-13 13:45:54

Hi Loveall - how come you are a member since 2004 and this is your first post. Seems like some sleeper....

The above scenario is absolutely correct and true. It happens almost 90% of new immigrants but at the same time, most of them upgrade themselves and climb up the ladder in first two years. If not then this place is not for them. Even after two years, if someone is still doing labor job, there is something missing so better move on and take next flight back to home country.


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