Posted on: 09-01-13 11:27:45
Hi Nightmare – you reminded me few of my childhood Sanghi friends with whom I grew up. They were very honest but never accepted healthy analytical criticism. I used to tell them that you guys have no input, just one loud output and no processor. Your memory is limited to whatever is recorded once and nothing can be re-recorded over it. I understand the way they were brain-washed and there is no room of healthy discussion but they are still my friends. You are one of them here on CD so I won’t miss them so much now 
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The more we involved in any religion, we becomes fanatics. Fanatism is an essential ingredient to make a religion more stable, strong and expending. Religion was brought into our society for social policing but it has been mostly misused by follow religious leaders.
You cannot have a prosperous country based upon one religion unless you have all inhabitant belongs to one religion. Just look into those countries where the political system is solely based upon religion.
Now back to my childhood Sanghi friends. They are facing a new dilemma now days. Their kids don’t accept their philosophy blindly. They try to argue what is acceptable and what is not. They use their brain and have critical thinking which is causing rift in families. They simply don’t want to obey blindly the way which my friends obeyed at their time. Their another dilemma is related to the recent incidents of tainted leadership at higher cadre. As compare to Congress, which is top to bottom involved in corruption at all levels, cleanliness was a big asset to them – but no more. When the new generation points figure at their tainted leadership, they have no explanation. This is the reason the new generation is drifting away. In the recent Anna and Kejriwal’s movements in Delhi, the same new generation participated actively. It is a sort of MANTHAN going on where clean, honest and dedicated people are coming together to uproot corruption from the society. There is huge unrest in Delhiites which is clearly visible from the anti gang rape demonstrations. Lets see what is going to happen in the upcoming Assembly Election of Delhi, which is due this year. It may decide/influence the direction of the outcome of 2014 General Elections.
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A Delhite in Toronto
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Sometimes, mind could have rotten beyond cure. We start thinking that we are the most knowledgeable person. Our path is the only right path – all others are on wrong path. Difference of opinion is not tolerated and others are either friends or enemies. We start hating others. It also influences our views/speech/posts. Owaisi and few posters are good examples of such mind sets.
I would like to copy from my other post as under:
“I can say – Talibanism can penetrate anywhere, anytime – in our religions, in our societies and even in our homes – unknowingly.”
प्रभु सबको सदबुधि दे
Lol! Now trying to occupy high moral grounds. These pseudo guys are even worst than Owaisi. Owaisi, at least is honest in speaking what he believes. These pseudo intelligent guys, when they have no arguments, resort to fakery of hurt feelings.
I do not believe in fakery. My statement may be harsh, rude or insulting but at least those are frank and clearly and unequivocally speak my point of view. By the same count, I do not feel offended by so called insulting or rude statements against me. And believe me, there have been so many. I have made quite a few “enemies” on CD.
I guess you and people of your ilk have no answer to my questions. I cannot keep repeating it. Let me pose those questions one more time.
1.) MSM takes hundreds of interviews and then they publish just a few which portrays Hindu as morons. MSM has one agenda only. To portray Hindu as bigoted , intolerant and antiquated religion.
a) Why do they not interview Narendra Modi, Smriti Irani, Jaitley or Sushma?
b) Why do they not reveal how many people from each party have been interviewed.
c) Why do they not interview Rahul and Priyanka? If these youth leaders refuse to give interview, why do they not let people know that?
d) Why do they talk to Abhishek Manu Singhvi, who was caught on tape sexually exploiting a woman?
2). Why there is no debate on failure of Kangress to prevent rape and oppression of
women after 60 years of rule ?
3) Delhi has been rape capital of the world. MMS/Sonia and Sheila are ruling Delhi for last 10 years. Why are they not being held accountable?
Now my dirty mind has asked these questions. Let me have your Non-Taliban answers.
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Dear brother Rohit,
Thanks for sending pm.
I did call camh. When I provided your reference, their attitude changed and after some polite discussion, wanted to know your whereabouts. Of course, as assured by me, I did not provide them your address, telephone or other contact info. I told them that if they tell me the reasons for their keen interest to track you down, I might be of help. Ultimately, they relented and told me that you escaped while you were undergoing treatment at camh and they believe that the treatment is still not complete. I guess they still consider you of unstable mental condition and a danger to the society. I urge you to contact them ASAP.
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Hi Nightmare – you reminded me few of my childhood Sanghi friends with whom I grew up. They were very honest but never accepted healthy analytical criticism. I used to tell them that you guys have no input, just one loud output and no processor. Your memory is limited to whatever is recorded once and nothing can be re-recorded over it. I understand the way they were brain-washed and there is no room of healthy discussion but they are still my friends. You are one of them here on CD so I won’t miss them so much now
The more we involved in any religion, we becomes fanatics. Fanatism is an essential ingredient to make a religion more stable, strong and expending. Religion was brought into our society for social policing but it has been mostly misused by follow religious leaders.
You cannot have a prosperous country based upon one religion unless you have all inhabitant belongs to one religion. Just look into those countries where the political system is solely based upon religion.
Now back to my childhood Sanghi friends. They are facing a new dilemma now days. Their kids don’t accept their philosophy blindly. They try to argue what is acceptable and what is not. They use their brain and have critical thinking which is causing rift in families. They simply don’t want to obey blindly the way which my friends obeyed at their time. Their another dilemma is related to the recent incidents of tainted leadership at higher cadre. As compare to Congress, which is top to bottom involved in corruption at all levels, cleanliness was a big asset to them – but no more. When the new generation points figure at their tainted leadership, they have no explanation. This is the reason the new generation is drifting away. In the recent Anna and Kejriwal’s movements in Delhi, the same new generation participated actively. It is a sort of MANTHAN going on where clean, honest and dedicated people are coming together to uproot corruption from the society. There is huge unrest in Delhiites which is clearly visible from the anti gang rape demonstrations. Lets see what is going to happen in the upcoming Assembly Election of Delhi, which is due this year. It may decide/influence the direction of the outcome of 2014 General Elections.
Oh ! You have certainly adapted to Canada well. You are using Canadian language, full of venom and prejudice but couched as honey. Let me make certain points absolutely clear.
CD is a forum where we discuss differing point of views. We need not agree on one point of view. Differences are healthy and should be acceptable. Since this forum is for anonymous discussion, there is no need to be polite. Insult is fine. I do not care if someone insults me. Most of the time I Lol!
Now to Sangh Parivar. I do not belong to it, but I do like their dedication, principles of self-reliance and simplicity in life. I like their patriotism. I do not subscribe to ALL their views. I am a rebel and have been all my life. That is the reason I do not become a member of any religion or political party, for if I were to be a member, I would voice my opinion and would be expelled.
My posts on CD have always been against hypocrisy and against mental disorder called “liberalism” which, in my dictionary means lazy and unintelligent behaviour.
You might label me “fanatic” and that is fine. That is the tactic adopted by liberals when they have no solid argument. Again calling me brain-washed would be of little help. I do not care what you call me. I hope you do not lose sleep if I call you idiot or “liberal” (which is an abuse as per my dictionary).
I do not have a very lazy attitude of accepting whatever MSM spews. If any news interest me, I do my best to gather information and then form my own opinion. Listening to others is part of opinion forming process for me. I have learnt a lot when looking at the same prism from a different angle.
As regards religion, you really do not have to lecture me. My ex wife was atheist and my two daughters have married to non-hindu in Canada. One to a Paki Muslim and another to an afro-american Christian. Knowing my strong views, we never discuss religion at our social gatherings. By now they all know that if someone criticizes Hindu religion, I always give back. I would never meekly accept that Hindu religion is bad or inferior. Of course, unless someone raises and persists with the subject of religion, I never initiate any discussion on religion. I do not believe to any cult nor have any Guru. But according to me, Hindu religion in its true sense is most beautiful and enlightening.
I hope I have made myself quite clear. So go ahead and criticize or curse. It does not matter to me.
As regards Kejriwal, I consider him as a fraud. He took very unethical route to ride Anna wave, while all the time he had political ambitions. He is trying to position him equi-distance from Kangress and BJP, in the hope that he would be an unanimous candidate for PM position in 2014 with 2/3 MPs. Gujarals, Gowdas and Manmohans have set an ugly precedent which prompts light weights and non entities like Kejriwals, Nitish and Sharad Pawars to dream of being PM.
Kejriwal would not win even 10 seats in Delhi election. I hope he is exposed in Delhi election so that non-kangress parties would have a slim chance of coming to power.
Jay Prakash Narayn was a far greater leader and thinker than Kejriwal. Look at the kind of people were churned out of that Movement. Lalu ,Paswan, Mulayam and V.P. Singh were born out of that movement. Lol!
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Oh ! You have certainly adapted to Canada well. You are using Canadian language, full of venom and prejudice but couched as honey. Let me make certain points absolutely clear.
CD is a forum where we discuss differing point of views. We need not agree on one point of view. Differences are healthy and should be acceptable. Since this forum is for anonymous discussion, there is no need to be polite. Insult is fine. I do not care if someone insults me. Most of the time I Lol!
I am polite and don’t enjoy being rude. This is my personal preference and will stick to it.
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Now to Sangh Parivar. I do not belong to it, but I do like their dedication, principles of self-reliance and simplicity in life. I like their patriotism. I do not subscribe to ALL their views. I am a rebel and have been all my life. That is the reason I do not become a member of any religion or political party, for if I were to be a member, I would voice my opinion and would be expelled.
Still you are an excellent raw material for Sangh Parivar.
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My posts on CD have always been against hypocrisy and against mental disorder called “liberalism” which, in my dictionary means lazy and unintelligent behaviour.
Most of others have the same opinion about you.
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You might label me “fanatic” and that is fine. That is the tactic adopted by liberals when they have no solid argument. Again calling me brain-washed would be of little help. I do not care what you call me. I hope you do not lose sleep if I call you idiot or “liberal” (which is an abuse as per my dictionary).
I do not have a very lazy attitude of accepting whatever MSM spews. If any news interest me, I do my best to gather information and then form my own opinion. Listening to others is part of opinion forming process for me. I have learnt a lot when looking at the same prism from a different angle.
As regards religion, you really do not have to lecture me. My ex wife was atheist and my two daughters have married to non-hindu in Canada. One to a Paki Muslim and another to an afro-american Christian. Knowing my strong views, we never discuss religion at our social gatherings. By now they all know that if someone criticizes Hindu religion, I always give back. I would never meekly accept that Hindu religion is bad or inferior. Of course, unless someone raises and persists with the subject of religion, I never initiate any discussion on religion. I do not believe to any cult nor have any Guru. But according to me, Hindu religion in its true sense is most beautiful and enlightening.
I hope I have made myself quite clear. So go ahead and criticize or curse. It does not matter to me.
Now I understand the real personal reason behind your venting out on public forum.
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As regards Kejriwal, I consider him as a fraud. He took very unethical route to ride Anna wave, while all the time he had political ambitions. He is trying to position him equi-distance from Kangress and BJP, in the hope that he would be an unanimous candidate for PM position in 2014 with 2/3 MPs. Gujarals, Gowdas and Manmohans have set an ugly precedent which prompts light weights and non entities like Kejriwals, Nitish and Sharad Pawars to dream of being PM.
Kejriwal would not win even 10 seats in Delhi election. I hope he is exposed in Delhi election so that non-kangress parties would have a slim chance of coming to power.
This is just your speculation or wish. Ask any Delhiite about it. They want a change. The Election Agenda of AAP is clear, clean and honest. It is the only political party who publish their all donations online. I have also tried to send some donation but it was refused as they only accept donations from Indian Citizens.
One weekend, I called my friends in Delhi with intention to ask them to support AAP to bring a fresh change in the political system. To my surprise, 10 out of 12 have already made up their mind in AAP’s favor prior to knowing my intention. This is the reason I said before – just wait for few months and you will know the outcome.
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Jay Prakash Narayn was a far greater leader and thinker than Kejriwal. Look at the kind of people were churned out of that Movement. Lalu ,Paswan, Mulayam and V.P. Singh were born out of that movement. Lol!
Why you forget to include BJP to this list – they were also a product/participant of the movement.
Anyway – the priorities were different at that time. Their only motive was to replace the party in power. The political system was not as rotten and dirty as we have right now. They never intended for a political system change.
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A Delhite in Toronto
You are a very ridiculous guy. All pomp and no substance. I posed 3 questions above but instead of responding to those, you want to digress. People like you deserve rant, not dialogue. It is typical of Non-Hindu to deride Sangh Parivar which is a great organization by all means. Sangh Parivar has rendered exemplary help and assistance compared to your Jehad spewing organization. I can easily understand your fetish for Kejriwal but I wish you keep your fantasies of Kejriwal private rather than putting on CD. For your Kejriwal fantasies have become public. When he loses badly in Delhi, someone can pull up your posts and again humiliate you. I guess by that time you would have changed your handle again. Lol! Carry on with Kejriwal fntasies. People of Gujarat have slapped you guys and you all are now smarting from that insult and humiliation. I cannot but LOL.
