Interesting - My traffic ticket was returned to me...


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-05 19:33:02

Quote:
Orginally posted by mercury6

I got a ticket for speeding (60 in a 50 Zone). $40. Sent in the check soon.
Today the check was returned and with a note saying:
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"The certificate of offence was filed late by the police. This ticket has been refused by the court and returned to the police.

No payment is required by you.

Please note that this does not prevent the police from taking further action by re-issuing the charge by way of summons."
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Anyone else had this experience.




Lucky you, man! I guess your commuting guardian angel was looking out for you. :)

You should've bought the lottery on the same day too! :p

I've heard of appealed tickets being "thrown" out by the judge when a cop does not show up (like SW mentioned), however this is a first. You don't have to worry about the insurance though. This is as good as the ticket being thrown out.


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BlueLobster   
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Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-05 19:34:52

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Orginally posted by jago_desi

yes, now if they send you a ticket you have the right to appeal. The officer who issued ticket to you has to appear at court to justify ticket. If officer is absent the ticket get nullified like it has been done by court now.



Why "now"? Its been this way for years.


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jago_desi   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 591
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-01-05 20:40:17

Quote:
Orginally posted by BlueLobster

Quote:
Orginally posted by jago_desi

yes, now if they send you a ticket you have the right to appeal. The officer who issued ticket to you has to appear at court to justify ticket. If officer is absent the ticket get nullified like it has been done by court now.



Why "now"? Its been this way for years.



NOW, if they again send a ticket as mentioned on the return ticket. Not Now onwards rule changed to this......


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bison   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 306
Location: Toronto, da BEST!!!

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-01-05 08:39:58

Quote:
Orginally posted by mercury6

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw


I understand that insurance companies disregard your first 'minor' ticket, while determining your insurance premium. However, a second or subsequent ticket will almost invariably result in a substantial increase.
In regards to speeding - any speeding ticket for a speed ranging from 0 - 49 km/hr would qualify as a 'minor' ticket and would therefore not lead to an immediate increase in insurance premium, notwithstanding any demerit points accumulated on that ticket.

This has held true for me, with my insurance policies from Meloche Monnex.

No idea about Merc's situation, looks like he got lucky - just wondering though, why weren't you challenging the ticket in the first place?



Well, let me add a some more detail.
I was actually doing 70, but the officer reduced it to 60 in a 50 zone.
He also said no points on my driving license.

No reason as far as contesting goes, just avoiding the hassle of having to go. If there was going to be points then I would have gone.

Anyway, if they reissue the ticket, I will contest.





Yo mercury6,

Know what? I too had a ditto experience.
Was doing 70, and the officer reduced it to 60 in a 50 zone. And he also said no points on my driving license.

Just wondering if it was the same officer? He He He....:D

Wasnt as lucky as u though... They didnt return my cheque :(

;)

:p bison



Jignesh   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 36
Location: North York (Toronto)

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-04-05 12:22:19

Hi guys,

I got a traffic ticket today.. I was driving at 70 kms at speed posted of 50. I got 3 point.

Anyone can suggest what to do?.. As I have very few days to decide


Jignesh



Smiley   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 1185
Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-04-05 12:32:48

Not sure if you can fight the ticket but you are looking at "increased" insurance premiums next time you renew your insurance or may be sooner


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crenshaw   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 914
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-04-05 12:47:11

Quote:
Orginally posted by Jignesh
Hi guys,
I got a traffic ticket today.. I was driving at 70 kms at speed posted of 50. I got 3 point.

Anyone can suggest what to do?.. As I have very few days to decide

Jignesh



Send it to the appropriate court saying that you will contest. The court will send you a notice of trial - in Toronto that should be in about 6 months.

On the day of trial, if the cop does not show up, you get away. Even if the cop shows up you can talk to the prosecutor, negotiate a 'guilty' plea, and you will usually have both the monetary fine and the 'points' reduced.

Your insurance premium does not necessarily go up immediately after your first ticket. From what I understand with insurance companies in Ontario, speeding fines upto 49 kms per hour over the speed limit are considered a 'minor' ticket. One minor ticket does not, usually, result in an increase in insurance premiums. However, a 'major' (like speeding >49 kms/hr or careless driving) or a second or subsequent minor ticket within 5 years would result in a considerable increase, so you'll have to be careful going forward (assuming that this is your first ticket).

In my case, I was ticketed for driving at 145 in a 100 zone. I contested, the cop showed up, I took a guilty plea and the prosecutor reduced the speed on the ticket to 129 (for 3 demerits as opposed to the 4 that were applicable at 145). As part of the bargain, a second ticket that I had for not carrying my insurance card was quashed. Insurance premiums did not increase at renewal.

Disclaimer: this was applicable to my insurance provider, may not be the case with yours.





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