meghal   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1651
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-01-05 15:42:29

As a initiator of this topic, I would request the moderator to close this topic.

I never intended to create a debate between vegetarianism and non-vegetarianism. As i reiterate, I am just trying to find the roots of my vegetarianism - I am yet to receive any perfect explanation for that.

I do not want to any ugly debates with people ridiculing/mocking each other. I am FINE with people eating meat. I do not have any objection towards meat-eaters. I am not promoting vegetarian lifestyle. That is their choice, that is their lifestyle, and to force any meat-eater to change their diet, is equal to force any vegetarian to eat meat.

Hope this is the final post.

Meghal

Will have to take some time off just to read all the messages :d :p



Dinotopia   
Member since: Dec 04
Posts: 9
Location: Windsor

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-01-05 14:52:43

Quote:
Orginally posted by pratickm

Quote:
Orginally posted by Dinotopia
So what is answer, why Animal eater Quiet.

I take a serious exception to your phrase "animal eater" when referring to non-vegetarians.
I don't know whether this was intentional or not.




No it was not intentional,I really d,nt know what word to use for such kind of peoples;
i know that in India we call MansaHari,,but i promise to findout more litrate word.
what about my question,probably No,Answer?.:(



pratickm   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 2831
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-01-05 16:59:06

Quote:
Orginally posted by Dinotopia
No it was not intentional,I really d,nt know what word to use for such kind of peoples;
i know that in India we call MansaHari,,but i promise to findout more litrate word.

The simplest word is - non-vegetarian :)


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jago_desi   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 591
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-01-05 18:50:22

Quote:
Orginally posted by Dinotopia

I really d,nt know



who uses this dont "d,nt" on this forum ;)


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nicefolks20   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 94
Location: GTA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-05 01:22:37

Its all about personal choice.....

Vegetarians take pride in depriving themselves of the taste of meat...being aware that others are enjoying it.

Non-vegetarians enjoy the taste of meat, and some are happy depriving themselves of the taste of lentils etc....in lieu of meat.

Life is short...just be happy.

BTW, once I was perplexed that some Desi vegetarians became non-vegetarians when they immigrated to Canada, when asked, they remarked, "the animals/cows in Canada aren't the same animals/cows as we find in India", so it is not a problem anymore.



Mishtar India   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 668
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-01-05 01:31:49

Like many other debates on this forum, this one also has no clear cut answer. So lets just respect each others choice of lifestyle and refrain from calling names.

While there are many merits of vegetarian lifestyle, lets say if the every human turns vegetarian overnight.....will the human race be able to sustain itself?

We in india are fortunate to have plenty of vegetation and agriculture that we have lots of choices for what to eat.
But there are many regions in the world where main source of food available is meat/fish or poultry. There are many countries where fishery is the main foodsource. Here is Canada itself , inuits have survived till this time relying on non-veg diet only.

So for some non-veg is a choice, for others it is a necessity for survival.


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jkundan   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 15
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-01-05 17:08:01

Hi there,
I am a new member and Im a vegetarian too, which attracted my attention to this topic. Apart from gujratis, you'll also find that majority of marathi brahmins are also vegetarians, just like myself.

To support the topic I have added a few quotes from the Vedas and other scriptures that support vegetarianism:

Those noble souls who practice meditation and other yogic ways, who are
ever careful about all beings, who protect all animals, are the ones who
are actually serious about spiritual practices. Atharva Veda Samhita
19.48.5. FS, 90

You must not use your God-given body for killing God's creatures, whether they are human, animal or whatever. Yajur Veda Samhita 12.32. FS, 90

One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another
animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such
a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to
cut off his head. Rig Veda Samhita, 10.87.16, FS 90

He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating the flesh of other
creatures lives in misery in whatever species he may take his birth.
Mahabharata, Anu. 115.47. FS, pg. 90

The purchaser of flesh performs himsa (violence) by his wealth; he who
eats flesh does so by enjoying its taste; the killer does himsa by
actually tying and killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of
killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts off the limbs of
an animal, and he who purchases, sells or cooks flesh and eats it -all of
these are to be considered meat-eaters. Mahabharata, Anu. 115.40. FS, pg 90

Ahimsa is the highest dharma. Ahimsa is the best tapas. Ahimsa is the
greatest gift. Ahimsa is the highest self-control. Ahimsa is the highest
sacrifice. Ahimsa is the highest power. Ahimsa is the highest friend.
Ahimsa is the highest truth. Ahimsa is the highest teaching. Mahabharata
18.116.37-41


Regards,
Kundan




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