Sushma, Swaraj unto herself


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-06-15 13:05:31

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Originally posted by Delhite

I believe NaMo has hit the reality of Indian Political system, which is deeply rooted in corruption. Now he is in dilemma of ‘Political Dharma’ and has to confront 2 main factors. First factor is the corrupt political subordinates. Some of them are corrupt – with a varying degree of corruption. He is in dilemma of ‘from where to start’. He doesn’t want to spill the beans and has to keep the majority with him. He also understands that when he will start taking action against the corrupt within his party, all corrupt will polarize against him so what he is doing is a simple jugglery. Right now, he is walking on the edge of the sword. Lets see how skillfully he can perform.

The second factor is finance. The type of money required in general elections, is not a secret. He has to pass on the favors to the donors otherwise they will back out next time. At the same time, he needs to keep all those favors under the carpet. I was expecting that he will push for Electoral Reforms in the first few years to clear this hindrance before the next election but seems like he is confident that he can manage the next election the same way he managed last time.

I was expecting him as a good warrior but seems like he is a good juggler. Despite the above two factors, I will still wait for next few years and see how he performs. I believe that a warrior could be a survivor but a juggler can’t. Indian voters are getting mature now and they want to see the results not just high pitch speeches. Speeches can win you one election but only and only ground results can win you next election.



Thanks for a sensible post amongst a lot of nautanki ones on this thread. I'm in a agreement with you. As you know, the juggling is part of politics and there is no way around it, it happens in the most developed countries with much more stable governments.

What I hope for is the juggling is accompanied by strategy building that is followed by some concrete action. That needs time and there's also a bit of trial and error before the correct balance can be struck. Like they say, you have to pick your battles and leave room for compromise since a striving for perfection without compromise is political suicide. And compromise includes accommodating some "bad" elements, both within and outside his party (cue that clown Advani for talking about emergency happening now). The delicate balance of how much to accommodate and when to take action. Its not different for Kejriwal who's quickly learning about this balance (good for him), evident in lack of action on the Tomar matter until escalated by Delhi police (the fake degrees were disclosed months back).


People can write off Modi but his track record shows remarkable perseverance and this should give the nation some hope. His political career outside of Gujarat was completely written off after the riots, it is unbelievable how he has come out on top after that. He'll need all his resilience to get past the distractions around him and do something concrete. It was different in Gujarat, where things were much more under his control. He'll need to deftly navigate much more complex waters now, and like anyone else, he'll take time to learn the ropes. He also knows his time is limited and he'll face a very unforgiving public if he can't.


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-06-15 13:32:56

If I receive a similar feedback from at least 5 other members , I will reconsider :)

(and so should you )


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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-06-15 01:06:22

The BJP MLA talks about the nexus between the money bags and the ruling party in MH

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Mumbais-Colaba-BJP-MLA-criticizes-PM-Modi-Shah-video-goes-viral/articleshow/47837002.cms

Yashwant Sinha's comments about those above 75 being made brain dead in BJP.
Sushma Swaraj seems to conduct her own league.
Jaitley seems to sing participatory Notes from wherever Chidambaram left.

We need not be surprised NaMo's term become UPA III.


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Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-06-15 08:56:32

Relax guys !!!

No one is saint and don't expect 100% corruption free modi govt - it will not happen in India , bjp is old party and have all kind of powerful people , no party run without money ..

Even so call AAP ( should be corruption free party but they are not )

What we need to see that after modi in govt things are changing in positive direction, ( at least it seems going in positive direction )

remember couple of years ago we only used to talk about scams, scams ,scams now at least we are talking about growth , development , cleaning, system etc...

So instead going Gung Ho on everything , wait for some time, It will take years to change system and get read of corruption from our countries

We have leader with vision - we should support him ...

Lalitgate case is not serious as other scam but its good that its in highlight which will put more pressure on Modi govt to curb weakness and will give modi strong hand to have more control over his own party members -

Lot of people not happy with modi withing party , bjp top brass dont like him nor want him BUT TRUST ME WE PEOPLE NEED HIM

this such incident put bjp govt in bad spot BUT IN FACT IT WORKS IN FAVOR FOR MODI, who knows may be modi team is behind this - definitely this incident will give modi strong hold and power over some of anti modi Gang


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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-06-15 00:48:28

We do sympathize with NaMo. When he was doing Mann Ki Baat, his deputies are doing Monkey Baath of the law of the land. He is unable to utter a word about their antics.


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Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-06-15 09:12:10

Ramar - Please don't sympathize - just be quiet and give him sometime :) :)

remember his quotes ? "We should walk together, work together and progress together. We should move ahead with this mantra "


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-06-15 11:24:57

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Relax guys !!!

No one is saint and don't expect 100% corruption free modi govt - it will not happen in India , bjp is old party and have all kind of powerful people , no party run without money ..
over some of anti modi Gang



So you do agree that NaMo is not a saint and is as corrupt ..Good for you ..at least one down.

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
What we need to see that after modi in govt things are changing in positive direction, ( at least it seems going in positive direction )

remember couple of years ago we only used to talk about scams, scams ,scams now at least we are talking about growth , development , cleaning, system etc...



Where's the change .. All we see are Modi's visits , speeches , insanely expensive designer dresses ... of course if you call Yoga to be a +ve change , yes it is ...but I fail to see how does that help country's perennial problems ....

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
So instead going Gung Ho on everything , wait for some time, It will take years to change system and get read of corruption from our countries



It did not take any time for him to get the Delhi Law Minister arrested ..or in giving Delhi LG back door power to LG to undo an electorate elected Govt ( then your comment was 'Mirchi Lagi ? Aage dekho kyaa hota hai ..now you are on a miserable back foot) . Why we did not see the same swiftness / efficiency in other areas esp in taking action against corrupt actions of Sushma Swaraj / Raje ?? Double standards .... Why has he not even given any statement regarding his own Govt.'s misaction ?

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Lalitgate case is not serious as other scam but its good that its in highlight which will put more pressure on Modi govt to curb weakness and will give modi strong hand to have more control over his own party members -



Don't you think he could excercise more control by sacking Swaraj / Raje to resign or to at least apologize but NaMo is silent as if nothing has happened ??

Quote:
Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
Lot of people not happy with modi withing party , bjp top brass dont like him nor want him BUT TRUST ME WE PEOPLE NEED HIM


That is the same thing about Arvind Kejalriwal also .... Delhi people have chosen him over anyone else including your NaMo ... then why is NaMo playing back door politics .... Sorry my bad , you have agreed yourself that NaMo is corrupt.:D


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