Posted on: 24-09-12 22:44:59
i know few jai shree krishnas speaking ....hypocrites use to do it regularly...come from india dont wear seatbelt and think that system is a jerk...
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Originally posted by san-hugo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3638860.stm
Here is the list of past convictions ::
http://www.ec.gc.ca/alef-ewe/default.asp?lang=En&n=8F711F37-1
While I completely agree that sneaking in/doing immersion unlawfully is not right at all, I think above links are demonizing the issue here. I know things could quickly go out of hand if allowed but citizens here are responsible and I am sure no one want to pollute the environment. What if the idols are made from bio-degradable material and immersion is allowed only certain areas? or from the material that will not have impact on environment?
It is very easy to dismiss the religion/faith as you become mature/knowledgeable. At times more easy to make fun of. But a child gets the values from religion that shapes his life in future. In exterme situation some become fanatics some becomes religious leaders but majority will get their values from a religion. Being atheist is a religion in itself. It is based on certain faith/beliefs may be you can call it science..anyhow enough of it..
One very good example of the legal but harmful to environment religious practice is burial of human body..
At least idol can be made up of environmental friendly material but dead human body is so toxic no matter how you process it, it will affect environment.
And as you know there are tonnes of legal/illegal activities done in this country that harms the environement purely to get monetory benefits...to the extent that we did not hesitate for a moment to pull out of Kyoto agreement.
Bhootacharya ji,
Pranaam ! :-)
The above links are only indicative, which may not directly imply to immersion act but similar less severe sanction might happen. This is just to give an outsiders perspective on religious matters which seems so dear to people now days.
Such things, particularly religious practices and gatherings, starts small but grow to level of utter nuisance. Thousands of such examples are there. Yes I am personally not very comfortable on such start-ups and I may be the one who will complain.
Hindus, while are all guns for the idol immersions in Toronto are not so comfortable with recent islamic gatherings. Christians are all against mosque building at 16th avenue, and muslims can kill people over a fabricated reel which they suddenly discovered 18 months after it was made.
My viewpoint : Sans religion, Kids can learn everything good at school, from rule books and from life experience which religion claims to be teaching and they will be spared from passion of christ, mohammed, Ram and Shive sena. Religion frowns a religion, a prophet contradicts a prophet, learnth a kid of today !
I am sure a doctor or even a driving instructor must have shaped and saved more lives than any known prophet ! Still it seems humans value the fairy tales more than the reality.
Good that at least you did not add two "t"s in Bhootacharya..it would be buttacharya..anyhow.
The things that you stated sound amazzing but there are times in every one's life when they look out for strength and that strength, for many, comes from faith.
What you are proposing was already recently tried and failed miserably in Russia....so no matter what, religions are going to stay. Now as per immersion of idol, who knows some day when I own one of the islands I will allow all the ganesh bhakt to celebrate and immerse idol (as long they meet EPA 
).
Ganapti Bappa...Morya!
Ganesh Utsav ki sabko bahot bahot shubhkamanaye!
hmm duplicate...
To the OP : With due respect to your faith and holy intentions - I request you to refrain from following this "tradition" of IDOL immersion. It is not really the way you pray to lord Ganesha, but actually a tradition started by Bal Gangadhar Tilak to unite Indians using a religious platform during India's freedom struggle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh_Chaturthi
Now it has become highly commercialized and political so no one can stop it happening in India, hope we can be more sensible and follow the original way of worship - in our temple or at home (best way- in your heart).
I don't know how our children can learn the values we believe in - from a teacher/scientist who themselves have contradicting values learned from their own religion. I am confident many of the scientists / engineers / doctors / astronauts themselves are religious.
Anyways, to each his own - there should no force/compulsion. Everyone's decision should be entirely voluntary without adversely effecting the society.
My 2 cents - 
Hiren
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Originally posted by hchheda
....without adversely effecting the society.
Hiren
Golden thought but less understood !
