Historic Day in USA Congress: Modified Health Care Bill to be Passed
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Originally posted by WEST-IS-THE-BEST
I find NIGHTMARE's posts full of lies, half lies and distortions. May be he does believe (like Boehner and his clan) that you can continue to tell lies till people believe it to be true.
Remember what Abraham Lincoln said : You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time'
As for the fear of the November senate elections, I or any left leaning democrat would hardly be worried. I will say here what the right wingers have been crying hoarse " The people have spoken". Besides it is not always about retaining power... Seven presidents have tried to reform healthcare in the US, so far, and failed.
No matter how you right wingers want to view this, it is a victory for Obama and the left. History has been created, but wait.............. this is only the beginning.. We will soon have a "public option" and then a "single payer system". We won't rest on our laurels till that is done.
As for the right wingers, you guys have to find a new punch line.......... no one believes in "death panels", "government takeover" "obamacare" and all the BS.
As for you, I am assuming that, since you are so opposed to "socialism"..
1. You do NOT live in Canada, which is the best example of a socialist society.
2. You do not visit walk in clinics, or check into emergency rooms because these are products of a socialist agenda.
3. You return child care benefit and HST/GST rebate/refund checks to revenue Canada because these come from subsidies.
4. Your children do not go to public schools because socialists like me subsidize your kids education through higher taxes. Instead you send your kids to private schools.
5. You do not use the library system, the parks, or any recreation center because these are run or maintained by higher taxes from socialists like me.
If you answered "NO" to any of the above, it makes you a nothing short of a hypocrite. I don't have a problem with your being a hypocrite - after all there are millions of them around.
The question would be : Do YOU want to be one of them?
If I don't pay taxes for the above I will end up in the slammer.
I am kind of surprised why CDs are discussing US healthcare issues, unless someone is getting ready to move south. FYI, I studied and worked in US, gone thru HMO and PPO. But that’s past. I live in Canada now.
Also stop dissing each other on this forum and if u really don’t know how the healthcare system in US works or going to work, don’t write.
KM
If this was not directed at me, please ignore what I now write.
A thread was started about the health care debate. I merely responded to it.
Going by your logic, no one here should talk anything that happens outside Canada. We should not be discussing anything that goes on in India or any other part of south Asia. Does that make sense? I don't think so.
I don't mean to offend you - but I don't think you should pass gag orders on anyone here. I thought we lived in a free world, no?
What is the impact of this Universal Health Care Bill just passed in Congress and which will be passed in the Senate with 51 votes as required to Canada ?.
Just out in CNN:
1.It'll create a need for more healthcare professionals, pharmacists and other health related personnel. This law will be required in a short term of the next 4 years when about 10 million will come under the health care insurance and by 2018 another 15 to 20 million will come under its umberella.
This law will lead a big requirement for health care professionals and that too for ones with North American experience. It is also projected that USA will not be able to generate the hundreds of thousands required with experience in a short time frame.
It is going act as a giant Vacuum and suck the best Doctors, Nurses, Pharmacists and all health related professionals out of Canada into USA.
Anybody wanting to go to USA and also is in the health care business the next 10 years will be a great time to walk into the promised land.
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Posted on: 22-03-10 16:38:59
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Originally posted by Vandematram
What is the impact of this Universal Health Care Bill just passed in Congress and which will be passed in the Senate with 51 votes as required to Canada ?.
Just out in CNN:
1.It'll create a need for more healthcare professionals, pharmacists and other health related personnel. This law will be required in a short term of the next 4 years when about 10 million will come under the health care insurance and by 2018 another 15 to 20 million will come under its umberella.
This law will lead a big requirement for health care professionals and that too for ones with North American experience. It is also projected that USA will not be able to generate the hundreds of thousands required with experience in a short time frame.
It is going act as a giant Vacuum and suck the best Doctors, Nurses, Pharmacists and all health related professionals out of Canada into USA.
Anybody wanting to go to USA and also is in the health care business the next 10 years will be a great time to walk into the promised land.
You are correct. Health care reform in USA would mean we will lose more doctors, nurses and other health care related professionals to USA.
Considering USA has 10 times more population than Canada - that will create a huge vacuum in Canadian health services.
But more than Canada, it will be the poor Caribbean countries like Jamaica, Barbados that will be worst affected by brain drain of the health care professionals to USA
From CNN site, read the tickers. Shows how split the nation is
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=e4UmztCDsqQ
If Dems lose the majority in Nov 2010, guess what? Repubs will repeal the bill. Then?
BTW, did CNN predict the recession? The real estate bubble burst due to sub prime? Wall St failures? AIG?
If not how do they predict that the bill will stay for ever and the need for thousands of health care professionals?
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Posted on: 22-03-10 19:02:54
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Originally posted by KumarM
From CNN site, read the tickers. Shows how split the nation is
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=e4UmztCDsqQ
If Dems lose the majority in Nov 2010, guess what? Repubs will repeal the bill. Then?
BTW, did CNN predict the recession? The real estate bubble burst due to sub prime? Wall St failures? AIG?
If not how do they predict that the bill will stay for ever and the need for thousands of health care professionals?
Well, the same kind of debates happened here in Canada in 1960s when they wanted to introduce universal health coverage. It costs Canadian Tax payer a ton of money but guess what? no political party in Canada could dare to roll it back since then as it is popular with the masses.
Almost every developed western country has a decent public health care system. So this is not about being capitalist or socialist.
(By the way, if we say public healthcare is socialism, then can't we say public transit is also socialism?)
Once the American public tasted the benefits of health care reforms - I am sure they will be against any one repealing it.
As a person who worked in USA in the past and experienced the short comings of their private health care system, I believe the reforms will be popular with the voters.
Eventhough the republicans are talking about repealing, in that process they are certainly going to lose more votes from the lower middle class in the USA
In a nut shell, Obama is cracking down on profits of health insurance companies in the USA and making sure every one has a decent coverage
I believe if Dems lose November elections , it will be due to other reasons (eg. unemployment) rather than because of healthcare reform
