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Pink Panther   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-06-06 13:32:28

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Originally posted by crenshaw


Its just some additional information, not something to get hung up on, neither something to use to apply 'good' and 'bad' labels to cities and / or countries, and should seen as that.




I agree :)

Read this article I found...it's pretty interesting.

Cultural Differences
Written by: Tara Schauerte

"When in Rome do as the Romans do" still rings true today as a great piece of advice when you visit another country. Differences in languages, environments, religions and political organizations may seem immediately obvious when you arrive in another country, but differences in culture are often a lot more subtle.

Here are some of the more common areas where you may encounter cultural differences:

Politeness: The level of formality or friendliness between people can differ greatly by country. It is a good rule of thumb when abroad to think of yourself as a guest in that country and act accordingly with courtesy and respect. Brushing up on the appropriate expressions for beginning conversations, making requests and giving thanks can be a good guide and try to avoid local slang until you are truly comfortable with its connotations and appropriate social contexts.

Physical Contact: Physical contact and social space varies between countries. While to some cultures a warm hug is an appropriate form of greeting, others will be uncomfortable with anything more than a reserved handshake or small bow. The same differences can apply to how close or far apart people sit or stand when talking or being introduced.

Small Talk: In the United States it is quite common to engage in small talk about yourself and ask questions about the person you are speaking with. However, in some countries personal questions or talking only about you can seem impolite when meeting someone for the first time.

Bargaining: Shopping abroad to bring home gifts and souvenirs is sure to be in your plans when overseas. However, bartering over prices may not be something you are used to even though it is not only appropriate but also expected in some cultures or you will insult the merchant. You can always test the waters by politely indicating that you like the product very much but that it is a bit more than you had anticipated spending; if the merchant wishes to bargain further, this will give him the opening he needs to offer you the product at a lower price.

Taking Pictures: During your travels you may wish to take photographs of the places you visit and some of the locals that you meet. Keep in mind that those people may not wish to be photographed or viewed as social curiosities and that in some cultures they may even demand payment for their photograph. Consider asking permission before taking someone's picture.

Body Language and Hand Gestures: beckoning, nodding and pointing are just some of the many gestures that differ from culture to culture. Be careful about keeping your own body language neutral until you are comfortable with what is customary in the location you are visiting. If you're unsure of the meaning of a gesture that you see, ask! And always remember the one universal gesture that scientists have discovered has the same meaning in every culture they study-the smile.

Keep an open mind when discovering a new culture by not relying on misleading stereotypes or preconceptions you may have heard back home or seen in the media. If you're unsure, you can always ask politely about local customs and what is socially appropriate when traveling. It may take a while to adjust, but learning about a different culture can be a very rewarding experience and ultimately give you more of an appreciation for what makes your own culture unique as well.

Did you know...?

· While handshakes have generally been adopted around the world, Southeast Asians press the hands together, Japanese bow, and Middle Easterners and many Asians favor a gentle grip.

· Asians, Puerto Ricans, and West Indians can consider direct eye contact to be rude or intimidating.

· North American hand waving for "hello" or "good-bye" means "no" to most Europeans. Europeans raise the arm and flap the hand up and down at the wrist to wave.

· Europeans and Asians raise the arm, palm facing down, and make a scratching motion with fingers to beckon. In Australia and in Indonesia, curling the index finger is only used for beckoning animals.

· The "V" for Victory or peace sign if made with the palm facing inward is obscene in England.

· Be careful where you make the O.K. gesture (a circle with your thumb and index finger). In France it means zero. In Japan it means money or coins. In Brazil, Germany and Russia it is obscene.

· While a thumbs up is used in North America to mean, "everything is good" or to hitch-hike, in Nigeria it is considered rude, in Australia it is obscene and in Germany and Japan it is the symbol for "one."

· Throughout Europe, whistling at public events is a signal of disapproval, even ridicule.

· Nodding your head means "no" and shaking your head means "yes" in Bulgaria, parts of Greece, Yugoslavia, Turkey, Iran and Bengal.

· When riding alone in a taxi in Australia, it's considered polite to sit in the front seat with the driver.

· At a restaurant in the Dominican Republic, you clap your hands to request the check.

· In many parts of the Middle East and Asia the left hand is considered unclean and therefore it is considered rude to eat, greet and touch others with this hand.

· In Argentina, spinning your finger around your ear doesn't mean "you're crazy" but rather "you have a telephone call."


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desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-06-06 13:43:12

Very interesting. My 2c on this:

• Be careful where you make the O.K. gesture (a circle with your thumb and index finger). In France it means zero. In Japan it means money or coins. In Brazil, Germany and Russia it is obscene.

>>>>In desh also it is (?) obscene. But due to the western culture invding, that gesture is slowly turning into O.K.

• While handshakes have generally been adopted around the world, Southeast Asians press the hands together, Japanese bow, and Middle Easterners and many Asians favor a gentle grip.

>>>In desh also, its adopted when greeting older folks indicating respect. I do it with the older folks, desh and here.

DIO



BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-06-06 15:28:43

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Originally posted by crenshaw

IMO, the report was released in the west, intended for what a western audience would consider as 'polite', as simple as that.

Its just some additional information, not something to get hung up on, neither something to use to apply 'good' and 'bad' labels to cities and / or countries, and should seen as that.




Agreed, this is one of those surveys you look at, smile and walk on. Nothing to be hung up about, I just found the criteria a little too favoring the West, they probably should've skipped cities from India if they were sincere about the results.

For example, if there was a niceness survey and one of the criteria was "How do you / wife treat a friend and his family who show up unannounced at your place?", most cities in India would win flat out. Its still very common in India to welcome and accomodate guests who come without calling in advance. Most Americans and Canadians would think you a looney if you did that.


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amitcr   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-06-06 16:31:05

The fact that New York ranked the most polite and Toronto ranked third in politeness shows what a lame ass POS survey this is.



desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-06-06 08:23:31

Johannesburg South Africa in the middle?

Wow! This really shows how screwed up the survey is. And South Africa is the only place from the continent. What abt Nairobi, Addis Ababa, Cape Town, etc. Did they miss out Colombo?



shankaracharya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-06-06 16:10:20

Opinions Do Differ !.

http://mboard.rediff.com/board/board.php?boardid=news2006jun21msg

Subject: Chennai is the most rudest city

Different cities seem to be rude to different people. It totally depends on your ethnic and lingustic background. I found Chennai to be the rudest city from the moment I stepped on the Chennai Central Station to the Autowalas who literally were uncoperative and rude and abusive why ...just because you did not understand and speak Tamil.Every where you went it seemed too be the Chennai cities culture to literally punish you if you could not understand or speak Tamil.Worse of all if you spoke amongst yourselves in Hindi then you were given the looks of suspected criminals.
It sucked..!
So my experience was Chennai or Madras was the most ruddest city I ever visited.So I disgaree to the article of Mumbai being the ruddest city in the world, the article must not had taken Chennai in account.

Posted by Aditya Datar on 21-JUN-06

RE:Chennai is the most rudest city

Hi,

I completely agree with you.

Mugdha

Posted by Mugdha Ashtaputre on 21-JUN-06



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-06-06 16:21:12

Sankaracharya,
My travel/work/school has taken me to different parts of Tamil Nadu.
I will agree with your post. Chennai or Madras is a very rude city. People speak "French" or Bad words very freely. Besides there is a "Chennai Tamil" which can be quite blunt, rude and vulgur. Examples would be "Kazhthai, Khasmalam, Baadu" etc... As a kid when i was in Chennai, i used to whine when these words were used when my family members were present. I think that Coimbatore and surrounding areas are the most polite towns of Tamil Nadu.
Also i would like to know if Patna and other areas of Bihar was included in the survey. Looks like they included only Capitals of countries or Financial capitals of countries.
Personally i would not agree that KL (Kuala Lumpur) is a rude city (KL to be at the top of the rudest cities of the world is a joke - http://www.canadiandesi.ca/read.php?TID=13624). I have been there for more than a year and i found people very polite, helpful and no nonsense kind of people.
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