Shani Maharaj - Sade Sati


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saumya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-12-07 12:46:18

Hi tulli , I am new to thsi site I am from TN USA . I have been told that both me & My husband have a sadde satti & mine with a mangal dosh.
Want to do something about it the preiest I consulted has told both of us to do Tantric shani jaap 108 times and for him to wear pukharaj & me to wera white moonga.
My husband is sceptic of doing the tantric jaap feraing if we are unable to do it right it may lead to more problems.

I am currently not sure what needs to be done to make things better for us & reduce the dasha, are their any other laternative to apease shani .
My husband was born in ajmer India at 1:30 am on 29th Oct.

I was wondering if you had any good sugestions.

thanks



peacock1   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-12-07 09:27:17

Hi,
"sadde satti" comes in life of each an every individual, as the name suggests, it is lasting for 7.5 hrs, in 3 period of 2.5 yrs each.
It is natures way to make an individual realise , and see the difficult side of the real life, some feel this effect un bearable and for some they ignore it and carry on with the life as if nothing major is happening,, the more you feel you are suffering, you suffer, try and take it +vely, and you shall start realising it is not all that very bad.
It s effects on each individual is also different depending on their planetary positions in their birth chart.
If your husband is not comfortable doing or performing any rituals, do not make it a issue .
Just to give you an example, if ever you have any issues(arguments, misunderstandings) arising out of this point of performing rituals, it is the effect of the " sadde satti"

I am not too sure whether my reply shall be of any help to you, but if it helps, just acknowledge on this platform, may be your reply can be of help to someone.


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virus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-08 05:20:47

I read the posts by members. Very insightful.

Now what happened with me was rather quizzical. I returned from the US a few years ago and am staying in India now.

A few months ago a priest who saw me at the wedding asked to see me. He didn't know anything about me and said I'd be entering the 7.5 phase in coming August. He asked me to be aware and suggested a few things.

I listened to him quitely but was not entirely convinced bcoz even my astrologer hadn't warned me of any such thing. This fellow who saw me for the first time was telling me months in advance as to when i was going to be aspected.

I decided to wait and watch and I'll tell you what happened.
I checked with my astrologer repeatedly and he reconfirmed I had no such thing coming. Time passed and we reached the first week of Aug 07. Then there was a huge article in the Times about 7.5 and while I knew a bit about astrology, I could figure that I was in for a transition that very week. I asked my astrologer and he still refused to accept it.

Come the transition day my astrologer calls me up and congratulates me that Ive had a transition. He said that it was not possible to predict bcoz it can decide to move away or something. The next day I separated from my job !!!!
Thereafter I felt extremely lazy, fatigued, devoid of clear decisions, confusion etc. I still do not have the motivation or the desire to take up another assignment so I am on a break.

The extent of the prediction was amazing. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. But my astrologer seems to continue to believe that my good times have begun and I can expect revolutionary changes in my life. The original priest had mentioned that it would be better if I left the shores and back to the US bcoz the effects would not be as much as in India. He was extremely positive that the shani effects are considerably minimized during stay in foreign lands. He was very very clear about it.

I visited the shani temple in Tirunallar and do some regular chantings. Maybe it is helping. Maybe it is not. Frankly, I am clueless at this point. You will not believe it if I said that my career was very high flying while in the US. Even after my return to India in 2001 I had considerable amount of difficulties on the Job front. I learnt later that my wife had been going thru 7.5 which began just when we returned. Thereafter, hers got over and mine started in 2007. Imagine being tormented for 14 long years. I can relate to Lord Ram now !!!!



virus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-08 05:39:11

I just read a few other posts after posting my article. I read some people questioning the rationality of these things.


Let me tell you thing. I am educated in the US and was a scientist for a while. I am even an inventor and hold patents.

Now what I have experienced and saw is clearly rational and devoid of superstition. As a matter of fact, before the actual period began, I was constantly complaining to my wife that there were sequence of events that were happening which was entirely not arbitrary and someone or something was responsible for it. My wife used to just stare at me. Late last year, my knee gave way and I wasn't able to walk for four weeks. Something happened to the knee joint. No I didn't fall or get hurt anywhere. I just got up from my desk, and bang it was gone. I am not overweight and I have pretty strong legs. I used to play soccer.

But there were several events that were happening that couldnt' be explained by some logic or chance events. I had an intuition that it was motivated by someone or something. Just couldn't explain it thats all.

Now I don't know how these events manifest themselves and I am clearly not the creator of this universe. The priest who approached me was never known to me, nor did he know me ever. He just rattled out his predictions without knowing anything about my birth chart, my rasi, my birthstar. I can tell you I was caught off gaurd.

I just lost my job because of circumstances completely outside my control. Just before the period began, I had three boss changes in a matter of weeks and everything was topsy turvy. Just a couple months prior to that I had excellent performance report. The situation just turned in such a way that I was blamed and all and sent packing !!!! I was watching all this and had the priests prediction in mind. It was very clear to me at that time that someone/something was manipulating events and they were happening very rapidly. You may not believe it unlesss you experience it first hand. I must tell you.


While I am not an expert on the larger scheme of things of the universe or its creations, I can tell you that whatever happened was clearly with purpose...

The priest said he'd give me some ring, but I couldn't go to the marriage the next day as I was jet lagged. So I lost the opportunity to meet him again. But he sent me a very clear message and I can see it all happening.



virus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-08 05:56:50

Quote:
Originally posted by TellaPilli

Dear Mr. ThinkingOne,

The mere fact that you are in this forum reading msgs indicates that there is a sense of curiousity if not belief/faith. I think that is perfectly OK. Let me try to answer your question(s) with a slightly different approach.

Leaving aside extreme cases (nuts) who tend to live by daily astrology predictions in the news papers, what do people who study sade Sade Saati, etc., do? I think they do these:

1) try to become pious;
2) try to focus their minds and energies and do "Sani japam";
3) try to be humble, feed needy people, abhor excesses/arrogance;
4) try to be prepared for a difficult period in life;
5) try to interact with wise and experienced people;
6) try to avoid depression/disillusionment/inaction;
7) introspect about life, failures, successes, meaning of life, etc.

Astrology or no astrology, what is wrong with the above? If some one does some or all of the above in the name of astrology, then all the more power to astrology.

Pl let us know what you think.



Trust me. I am enormously more than what you have listed here in the points. I do not think I have done any misdeed or hurt anyone in this life. Still I am experiencing fantastic negative affects. I disagree with this entirely. It is unjust and unfair. I would like whoever that is doing it to explain to me as what is it that I have done that I need to go through this ? I am unwilling to accept that I have done grave misdeeds and somebody is out to catch my neck and punish me for it. I challenge him or her as to tell me precisely what is it that I have done wrong ?
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virus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-08 06:11:28

Quote:
Originally posted by ThinkingOne

Disclaimer: Following is my personal opinion. And I do not have any intention to hurt anyone. Feel free to ignore my post please.

Shani, Sade Sati or whatever is being discussed here, are all theories. These are things for superstitious people. I find it hard to believe that so many people still are in these kind of things. Their higher education did not have any effect on the rational thinking?! On one side, people are in high tech fields, emphasize research oriented and analytical thinking... on the other hand, looking forward to such baseless things!? :down:



While I am extremely well educated and very very rational, I simply cannot but submit to the events that I have seen before my eyes. It is devoid of any logic or anything I can explain.

Like I said, I was constantly complaining to my wife that there was something fundamentally wrong and things weren't going the way they should be going. I have seen good periods and they were clearly "good". I just realized that my wife had a 7.5 completed just before mine had started. And I can tell you how it affected me. I was hospitalized 5 times in 5 years for various things that I never got in the previous decades of my life! I don't have any chronic ailment or anything, and I am a very very careful person regarding food habits and other healthy things. I didn't know about this 7.5 business then. My wifes' side was quiet all the while, and an astrologer did mention that her 7.5 was affecting me also. At that time I didn't understand it at all. I realized the full significance of it only when the priest warned me this year and I was able to witness the events first hand thereafter, when my 7.5 took over. somehow we have our 7.5 side by side, so I get a full 14 year flavor of it! Even my doctor was puzzled and said that I was taking a beating on my health. Even he didn't understand what was happening. I had surgical operations, and in one instance a paralytic attack that was reversed on time by a very expensive procedure. They were saying that I had a one in a lakh chance of getting this type of ailment. Ofcourse, I was completely cured of everything. But puzzled nevertheless.

Trust me, none of it is mumbo jumbo. I know when things are out of whack and they are going wrong. Very very likely there is a purpose. Maybe somebody is trying to teach us a lesson or something. Maybe it is the fruits of our great past deeds. I don't know. I can't fully comprehend it. But the articles I have read have promised that I will come out wiser from this episode. So I am looking forward to it. I would like someone to tell me precisely how wise it can get and what is it I need to learn that I already have not ! We'll see.



AskPandit   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-08 14:11:16

It is evident that most people will have tough time while going through Sade Sati. Sanibhagavan is a great teacher. Sani punishes/forces people to go through paiful experiences so that the person becomes humble, non-offending, etc, thereby he does not do harmful acts or even enjoy evil thought.

If one is very good in character, and approaches others with kindness , the effect of Sadesati will be less harsh. While this can be the solution in this life, past life's karma still affects the intensity of sade sati.

There are many fortunate people who have certain astrological yoga , which protects from severity of sade sati. One of them GajaKesari yoga. Another factor is that , if Sani is the lord of the person's nakshatra, the intensity of sade sati is not very severe.

Most of us go through some upheavels during sade sati. Most intense period is when Sani is tranisting in the Janma rasi (Moon rasi). This 2 & 1/2 years period is intense because the native undergoes Kantaka sani also at the same time. This is the middle phase of the 7 & 1/2 year phase.

Fasting on Saturdays, Chanting Hanuman Chalisa, offering oil lamp in navagraha temple, etc will help.

Chanting the following mantra when ever you have some time, will definitely please Sani Bhaghavan.


NEELANCHANA SAMABHASAM
RAVIPUTRAM YAMAGRACHAM
CHAYAMARTHANDA SAMBHOOTHAM
TAM NAMAMI SANISWARYAM


Om tat sat





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