and it amuses me to hear Indians blame Gandhi for partition etc etc while even after 50 years they have not been able to wrest back a chunk on of Kashmir back from Pakistan.
As I said it is very easy to shift responsibilty and everyone needs to find a scapegoat for their own failures

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Thank you for your comments. this throws a lot of light on the subject. so in fact, it could be said that Gandhi is better regarded outside of India than in India itself. this is very interesting.

Blue Lobster: "Gandhi bashing has become a fad"(!), Mishtar India: "It really is an irony that when the rest of the world named him the man of the century in year 2000...his own countrymen born decades after him are beginning to hate the father of their own nation."

wow, these are eye-opening phrases!

i think that in canada any negative Gandhi comments would be 'politically incorrect' and met with suspicion if not outright condemnation.

it becomes clear in light of the comments above, esp. Chor PerMor's, that Gandhi is associated with the partition. it seems obvious, even to a non-Indian such as myself who has never even been to the region, that this was disastrous: the two will never re-unite and the 300m muslims who would have been a formidible political force in india, are split up in Bangladesh, Pakistan and India, making them powerless.

Meanwhile India is doomed to endless internal and external conflict.

I guess there is reason for some sour grapes...

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Meanwhile India is doomed to endless internal and external conflict.

I guess there is reason for some sour grapes...

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i stand corrected, mishtar india, thank you. 'doomed' is not what i meant, as it is too strong: 'fated' or 'destined' would have been a better choice of words, since although India will flourish as its economic and human potential is tapped, pakistan and kashmir will remain a thorn in its side for the forseeable future....

or is peace with pakistan possible?

i don't know... the region is so volatile and the battle lines are already drawn... as in any war, there are those who thrive on the conflict and whose power derives from the conflict...

anyway, we must have hope.

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In india it is now politically incorrect to praise Gandhi while it is the opposite in the rest of the world.!

The only analogy i can think of is that when we throw away our own gems ... others would be more than happy to pick it up.
That is what i think explains the Gandhi phenomenon.

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I dont think that in near future India or most 3rd world countires stand any chance of development
These countries have too many too complex man made issues and will continue to inflict wounds on self for some more time.

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DIE HARD !

Chris I disagree with your comment that India is doomed with endless internal and external conflict. Also don't be influenced by a very narrow cross section of opinions you see here.

To start with how can you predict what the future will look like 5/50/100 years from now. So "endless" is a wrong word to use. At the moment politicians exploit religion for their personal gains but it might not be the case in future as people are educated and their basic needs are taken care of ie., people's perspectives change. India as you see it right now did not exist a couple of centuries back - it was broken into small kingdoms. People of various religions did co-exist peacefully under Kings of different religions.

If you have to draw conclusions then I guess you have to do more to know the history of people, current happenings, etc.

Regards
Daks