Islam: A German's View.


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Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 09:18:10

I have been staying away from religion discussion cause I get carried our easily. But I guess it’s time for me to add few points.

My debate is not about Islam but since this topic is here I would like to talk about Indian Muslim you blindly follow Islam against India

Let’s start with Pakistan:
Pakistan is just short of being declared a terrorist state, a centre of narcotics smuggling and home for wild eyed Muslim fundamentalists. Real trouble for India (God knows whose home is going to be the next victim of this Paki’s Jihad)

To a very large extent Pakistan is responsible for the ghetto-like existence of Muslims in India. It is Pakistan who has been constantly reminding Muslims in India, through poisonous propaganda, that they are Muslims first and Indians later and most Muslims in follow that path. Although in reality Paki Muslim does not respect Indian Muslim (they are kafir ) for them.

I have seen Zinha’s poster on the wall (not Gandhi ), I have seen Pakistan player phone not Indian player, I have seen celebration when Pakistan win match against India .

Most of them do openly or secretly celebrate when seeing India in any sort of trouble like Pakistan do.

Have you ever thought why we call you TRATORS, TERORIST, UNFAITHFUL TO INDIA?

On India, ALL ISLAAMIC TERRORISTS - ATACKS ARE NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT INDIAN MUSLIM’S HELP.
Even more, Why can we hang “AFZAL GURU”? , Why plane highjack? , Why 26/11? , List goes on and on

Sometime I wonder how in hell those traitors could be living in India?
Making a living from your soil and not giving any love back to the soil they are living on???


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Nightmare   
Member since: Apr 06
Posts: 1170
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 09:38:56

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

We are discussing something and we sure should not loose our sanity over it ... obviously there s no scope for personal insults .

This gets better with every page ..like old wine with icecube .. Like it or not there s truth to what I am saying and its not only me , there is a majority of the world's population who recognizes it ........... this insanity needed to be controlled to save mankind ...

Observe it from close ... they will start with 'peace' but end in violence --- always & every time ........ coz the religion is based on a doctrine of dominating the world ............ increase in population , multiple marriages , kafirs are just 3 examples of the objective of this religion ... If you will read this 5 times a day , you will be brainwashed in 2 years .. !!!

Nightmare , I and the interviewer do agree with your views to an extent and hence the need to protest and control the menace .... For those who still have not read ...I urge you to read this interview .... pragmatic , logical & eye opening ....

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/26/the-wrong-way-to-stand-against-jihad/

Icecube -

Ever asked yourself -- why is there a desire to rule the world ??? Why not live & let live with non interference ? ... But no Islam does not preach that ... ever asked yourself why Islam does not preach non interference ....

LHS = RHS ... hence proved .




Hmmm. Protest? Writing on the blogs does not help much. Control the menace? Sanjay Gandhi tried and look what happened then after. I was born and brought up in India and hence I can provide examples based on Indian context only. The fact that Nehru distorted education system and did not allow us to learn anything about history is the biggest impediment. We will have to accept the facts first before finding solution. Let us accept the fact that Islam has adapted very well. Where they are in majority, Sharia is supreme. When they migrate to Western world, along with Left Liberal Social Progressives they brow beat us, take advantage of intellectual passivity of populace and implement their agenda. I am surprised that no one asks refugees from Islamic world that why do they insist on observing same 14th century customs and rituals from which they purportedly escaped and sought refuge here. To me most striking is intellectual passivity and dishonesty of Hindu in India. After suffering humiliation, carnage and genocide, they still have not learnt any lesson. They are still fighting amongst themselves knowing pretty well that their disunity was the cause of slavery for 850 years. May be they have been so traumatized that they do not want to face the reality. India provides classical example of how not to fight the war. I have given quite a few examples previously on this thread but nobody responded to that. I do not want to repeat the same. History is being repeated in the West. I still believe that Islam would rule the world in 4 decades. With Obama kind of people at helm, it might happen sooner.




Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 11:05:11

It has not happened in 1400 years ... it won't happen in 40 ...

If there are people with nefarioius designs , there are people who protest & oppose as well .....

You may learn how to co exist with Islam and accept it -- I would rather oppose it and undo it ..... I salute the Sikh martyr who preferred death over conversion .... Obviously you would not understand the feelings behind it ..

Go convert or lead a subjucated life ... thats what future for people who accept Islam . For those who do not -- denounce it and shun it and make the world a better place to live in .


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 11:07:47

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Where they are in majority, Sharia is supreme. When they migrate to Western world, along with Left Liberal Social Progressives they brow beat us, take advantage of intellectual passivity of populace and implement their agenda.




Well said ... the least we can do is create awareness and that problem half solved .


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Fido.


icecube   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 121
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 12:56:47

Noor-e-Haq Shamme ILAHI ko buja sakta hai kaun !
Jiska Haami Ho KHUDA usko Mita Sakta hai KAUN !!



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 13:06:50

Afghanistan aur Iraq dekh rahe ho na ???

Pakistan mein to aapas mein hee mitaa raho ho .....

Ice cube - your verses speak a lot about you .... you prove my point ....


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Fido.


BAsh   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 121
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-04-10 13:52:32

I did not follow the little Rhyme by Icecube fully. Can somebody translate it to so I too can get more enlightened. Also please translate the better response from DesiTiger.




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