Crenshaw Analysed.


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jatan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 13:30:44

when i say I assumed was the PR is on point system and if the govt. accepts my qualifications etc then why wouldn't the employers.



crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 13:53:18

Jatan:

Again, I’m trying to understand the mindset.

You were a senior official in a company. Your interview was waived, or perhaps you were interviewed by an officer who does not necessarily have any expertise in your field of work. You assumed that on the basis of this review, or interview waiver, the government was guaranteeing you that you would find a job.

Is that your point?



morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 14:11:59

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw

Jatan:

Again, I’m trying to understand the mindset.

You were a senior official in a company. Your interview was waived, or perhaps you were interviewed by an officer who does not necessarily have any expertise in your field of work. You assumed that on the basis of this review, or interview waiver, the government was guaranteeing you that you would find a job.

Is that your point?



I assume he means that because he had very little difficulty in finding work in the US, that it would be similar in Canada and that based on his qualifications (ie/ the point system that assesses his occupation) that he wouldnt be asked for 'canadian experience/education'.

am I right?


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jatan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 14:12:02

not a job but atleast no one saying that I require Canadian exp. and Canadian education to find a job.

Just out of curiosity are u just trying to be stupid or really are stupid or just having fun or can't understand plain English.

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The only thing I got was a job in a warehouse. I don't mind working in warehouse as it's a honest job, but yes it hurts a person deep down when everyone tells you that ur not Canadian educated or experienced. Makes you feel that u r some uneducated person who knows nothing about anything. I spent yrs working and studying hard to become a CTO and coming here the education, experience was treated like someone throwing away previous days newspaper in a waste paper basket.
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sorry about my comment but really interesting that though 2-3 times I have mentioned the same thing but it still doesn't register in ur brain.




DiogenestheCynic   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 14:14:11

Quote:
Orginally posted by crenshaw
Jatan:

Again, I’m trying to understand the mindset.



I maybe wrong, but I think what he wants to say is that it is wrong for the Canadian Government inviting immigration in such large numbers, while fully aware of the unfavourable employment scenario.

The simple fact that jobs are not available and such a large number of immigrants are struggling, should be reason enough to clamp down on immigration.

The US is such a large economy and has a lot more jobs to offer. Despite that, getting immigration into that country is very difficult. They do not allow people to come in at random. Entry is permitted but only if that person has a job. The same logic should be applied here. Allow industry to run short of whatever type of people it needs. Then let them hire and sponsor people from countries outside.


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crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 14:31:50

Jatan:

If you'd like to trade insults, I can do that too. I could unleash a range of abusive language at you and we can trade barbs for the rest of this afternoon....

Coming back to my previous post, I asked you a simple question. Take a moment and try and understand this:

As a well educated professional, did you ‘assume’ that an interview by an immigration officer who may or may not have had expertise in your field, would guarantee you a job in Canada?

Did you assume that once the immigration department had granted you a visa to immigrate to Canada, you were free of all obligations to do your research BEFORE landing permanently in the country, and to upgrade your qualifications, if necessary?

There are different ways that people go about things. For example (just an example) you COULD have made an exploratory visit without burning your bridges to wherever you came from, looked for a job, and if you didn’t find something that suited your skills, you could have returned.

Bottomline: As an educated professional, did you believe that an interview by an immigration officer guaranteed you a job? Did you make a life altering decision based on that ‘assumption’?



crenshaw   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-05-05 14:37:58

On a different note Jatan:

Has someone SPECIFICALLY told you that you will not get a job in Canada because you don't have Canadian education or experience?

I mean, at the end of an interview, do they actually say the words? Or do you 'assume' these as well? No insults meant, if you'd like to trade some though, I have time this afternoon!





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