Posted on: 15-01-05 02:27:37
Hi Mr Jago Desi,
At what stage is your OACETT application since i assume you are in the same situation as i am seems, you have university degree in Engineering from Asia.I would also appreciate if you share with us at what stage is your P Eng application currently.I mean did you had to/ were wavied with PEO's Confirmatory exam program.
thanks
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Are you serious Bison? University degree holds good value if matched with kind of experience Canadian market demands.
Agreed...
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Real requirement of PEng is when you are in the capacity of signing drawings, certifying structures or attesting any of the engineering stuff.
Dont think thats the case. Legally, Individuals may not call themselves a professional engineer, a P.Eng., or use any similar title that may lead to the belief that they are qualified to practise professional engineering, unless they are licensed by PEO (for Ontario)
The law is very clear. No one can use the title \"engineer\" or any other title with engineer at the end of the title if he or she is not licensed for P.Eng.
Non-engineers may use instead Project Analyst, Project Specialist, Project Supervisor, Project Manager, Project Leader or coordinator, or any other title other than the title \"engineer\".
The PEO Members forum (http://www.peo.on.ca) pretty much answer all questions of this sort.
bison
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The law is very clear. No one can use the title \"engineer\" or any other title with engineer at the end of the title if he or she is not licensed for P.Eng.
Non-engineers may use instead Project Analyst, Project Specialist, Project Supervisor, Project Manager, Project Leader or coordinator, or any other title other than the title \"engineer\".
The PEO Members forum (http://www.peo.on.ca) pretty much answer all questions of this sort.
What are you trying to say. An engineering student will apply for a job based on his qualification. If I am an engineer, nobody in world can stop me in calling or addressing as AN ENGINEER. It is the provincial requirement, to sign papers that involve certification, safety etc to be approved by PEO for the credentials. You are mixing qualification for the provincial authorization.
I fail to understand your point. If I have degree from university saying Bachelor of Engineering, even PM of canada cannot stop me from addressing my background as an engineer. I cannot go on and sign papers for which there is a guide line by PEO.
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As much as i would like to agree with you... I think the law in this case is otherwise...
Go to http://www.peo.on.ca/ and click on Enforcement.
I am pasting below the text that comes from this link under the heading "User of the term Engineer"
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"Enforcement is legal action PEO takes against individuals or entities who practise engineering without being licensed, or offer engineering services without holding a Certificate of Authorization. With only a few exceptions, only people who are licensed with PEO can practise professional engineering, and only people or entities who hold Cs of A issued by PEO can offer or provide professional engineering services to the public.
Sections 39 and 40 of the Professional Engineers Act give PEO the authority to take action. Section 40(1) sets maximum fines for individuals and firms practising without the necessary licences (P.Eng., and/or C of A). These fines are $25,000 for a first offence and $50,000 for each subsequent offence. Section 40(2) authorizes fines of up to $10,000 for a first offence and $25,000 for each subsequent offence, for people who:
- use the title "professional engineer" or an abbreviation or variation as an occupational designation;
- use a term, title or description that will lead to the belief that the person may engage in the practice of professional engineering; or
- use a seal that will lead to the belief that the person is a professional engineer"
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I would again suggest that you go thru the posts in the PEO Forums.
On the http://www.peo.on.ca site, click on Members Forum.
If u find that i have been mistaken, No other person would be more happier than me!!!
bison
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- use the title "professional engineer" or an abbreviation or variation as an occupational designation;
- use a term, title or description that will lead to the belief that the person may engage in the practice of professional engineering; or
- use a seal that will lead to the belief that the person is a professional engineer"
Only for these duties you require a PEng. BUT there are lot of other jobs related to engineering. Like Project, Specification Sheets, design, manufacturing, process etc. These jobs start and go thru various level before reaching the final level. At this final level you require a PEng to certify that he has checked and approves work carried out under his supervision.
Do you want to check at industry level how many PEng do they hire.
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