Do not volunteer in the hope of getting a job


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rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
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Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-09-15 12:09:54

Co-op jobs you can get only if you are in a registered program at a community college or university. Some companies have co-ops on rotation, so these co-op students are never absorbed, they are replaced by another co-op. For these co-op students to be absorbed, they have to compete with others when a job is posted. These students will probably be considered because they worked with the company but you need to back it up with relevant experience. If you do not have much experience, such co-ops will not result in full-time jobs.

In smaller organizations there is a good chance to get absorbed if they are actively looking for someone. Companies gets cooperative education tax credit for hiring a co-op student, so sometimes they are only interested to get the tax credit and get the work done by a co-op student. It costs them less than a regular full-time employee doing it.

There are also fields that are quite saturated especially in Ontario and are quite competitive. So, new immigrants are going to face a tough time unless they have significant amount of experience from back home and one Canadian company can provide them with some "Canadian work experience" at least for a short time.


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Delhite   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-09-15 15:08:46

What will be the nature of job? Could you please provide some details with type of training?


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-09-15 16:23:35

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Originally posted by happywoman36

Forget everything and send me a msg if u want Canadian work experience. We wl place u like we placed so many people but remember that u wl be trained for the job and initial salary will min $11. U can opt for cash job and night shift too if u are a student/EI etc.

Hope this helps little bit. :)






Nobody volunteers or needs to volunteer for $11/hr job.

These $11/hr jobs and the ones which are volunteered for like teacher , coordinator etc are different segments altogether..


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-15 02:22:00

Situations differ.
I am not sure how many of you know, but many companies even turn away people who want to volunteer.
A desi immigrant lands in Canda. He may be in a technical field like Architecture or Engineering. Many sucessful IT engineeris might have told him just to look at his skilled job. For 3 months, he will be sending resumes left and right and not even land in one interview call due to his non- canadian experience.

Then someone would advise him to go / cold call companies and offer for volunteering as he might be under the impression that if he volunteers, then he can put it as Canadian experience in his resume and also get a reference. Even people who do labour jobs for 10 hours a day want to volunteer for 4 hours a day in their field. This is another set of people.

When I was working in my office, I was asked by many desi's to help then get placed as a volunteer in my office for Canadian experience. Though I know that this will short change immigrants who immigrate to Canada for a better job / salary, I agreed. My boss told me that he has no time to even take volunteers and that he prefers people who have Canadian experience and who can work independently for $ 10 an hour (2005).

With the huge numbers of immigrants coming in (esp. south american and East Europeans who are white in colour), there are numberous calls for doing volunteer job in their past field. Many work in tims, child care centres for 8-10 hours to ensure food at the table and then they want to volunteer for 4-8 hrs a day so that one day they may be able to get a job of their past experience.

Murali


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tamilkuravan   
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Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-15 09:34:31

HappyWoman 36,
I am helping 2 Architects in Toronto find a job. While they are searching for a job, they would like to work in BPO / job that you mentioned for $ 11 an hour, atleast till January 2016 (because major job decisions only take place in Jan.).

So please give me details of the same, so that I can pass it on to them.

Murali


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-15 12:35:03

Quote:
Originally posted by happywoman36
P.S. Volunteers don't get paid (even in co-op). some good companies pay stipend $1000-1200 pm.



Volunteers don't get paid but co-ops do .. There's a difference .

When you volunteer it is for positions upwards of survival job .. positions which pay 40K+ .

Survival jobs are also known as dead end jobs for a reason - if you stay in them , you lose the opportunity ,time & will to get into your main stream job .

Remember new immigrants bring $10 - $16K.

Instead of going for survival jobs for the first 3-4 months , I would advise immigrants to get into the job search mode on a high and put their 150% into it as once they enter the survival jobs , they would lose the time and wish to get back to their original areas of work and the gap and doing survival jobs will only hurt their profile later.

Once you have gone past the 3 month mark , by sure yes , join a survival job but keep on sending out resumes and attend interviews .


Another successful strategy can be ~ one spouse does survival jobs while the other one upgrades local education credential and when this spouse gets a job , the other one starts upgrading ... With in 2-3 years , good chances that they are both can be settled in their original professions .


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rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-15 12:51:43

Quote:
Originally posted by happywoman36

we are placing directly in the companies now. (not thro employment agencies) so, tell them to contact us thro pm. This is in food manufacturing industries where work is not heavy.



I am prompted to ask this. Are you providing a referral and if it is free or you have a registered business which is an employment agency?


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