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Posted on: 17-10-09 00:20:18
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 17-10-09 00:20:18
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Originally posted by sha2nk1. In SAP all the jobs are contractual and never permanent? I would consider permamnet job initially so that I get some time to breathe as I dont have any SAP experience...
2. what is the chance of getting job after certification but without any implemetation expereince and average salary one should expect.. not average rather in worst cases???
Hello,
I replied to your e-mail but no response from you as of yet.
I have also sent all the confidential information as well as the best staff in the market details to your e-mail address along with where I am doign my SAP course.
To answer your questions :
1. Companies using SAP typically hire you to customise their SAP FI software to their policies. So this takes around 3 months to 3 years where you fine tune the system, teach the employees to handle it etc.. After that the company will run with bare min SAP Staff. 2-3 years are as good as being permanent. There are some small jobs running 1 month, 2 month in length and I donot think that a personb with your experience will even take it. It is for the Diploma holders without any Finance knowledge and who have learnt SAP. You have a solid background in Finance and solid knowledge in Finance and solid experience in Finance. However, having said that see me disclaimer in the point no 2 .
2. if you have Finance /Accountancy background SAP certification is NOT necessary. SAP Certification is for the people who are changing their carreer to SAP and those on EI , since EI allows 3 sap certification attempts. There are a lot of oxymoron's in taking certification. For example, only SAP 4.6 notes are given to you and the instructor teaching you may have only 4.6 experience. Your notes were printed in 1999 (Today is 2009). We are in SAP 6.0 version now. certification is done for 4.6 or 5.0 or 6.0. Some companies will have SAP 4.6, some 5.0 some 6.0. So taking certification for 4.6 may not help in companies running 6.0 and vice versa, though the instructors swear that there is no difference between 4.6 and 6.0. I personally have not come to the stage to find out.
Everyone in the market cooks up the resume. So you will be forced to show 2 years of SAP FI experience when you send out your first resume.
At the current time, It is very difficult to get a SAP FI job (not impossible). In USA it is equally tough, with many people out of H1B status and without jobs and many coming to Canada. Many Canadian companies are getting SAP people from TCS, Wipro, Satyam, Infosys etc.... The advantage of these people is the headache of hiring a PR/Canadian immigrant as they will fall under canada labour laws and it is difficult to fire them. Getting people from TCS etc.. on Work permit is advantageous as the managers can demand a person to be changed (if they donot like him/her) and a replacement will come from India in just days.
SAP FI Salary starts from $10 (Being a User- which a diploma holder does).
$20 an hour min. Super user (which is also a diploma holder).
You (a functional consultant - as you can customise the system) will start with a min. of $ 40.
Average range in 1 year of experience or one project cycle is $100-$140.
With 2 or 3 years you go to $200-$250 an hour.
Other SAP FI guru's can share.
Again my disclaimer (as told by all SAP ERP training partners) : It all depends on how well you work / study. If you donot get a SAP FI job, that only means that there is some mistake with you or that you have not studied properly or that you did not give the interview well. There are so many SAP FI jobs available in the market but you were not smart enough to get it. You canot blame us but only yourself (the person who paid to study SAP FI)
Hope this helps.
Peace by a PD.
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Hi,
once again millions of thanks. Honestly yesterday whole day I was waiting for your reply. Unfortunately I have not received any confidential email containing all information about training provider. I did get three emails yesterday in my mailbox but that link takes me back to your reply in Cdesi site and I dont know why I cant find information I want...so will you be kind enough to send it again as I need to take that decision in couple of hours only..
Thanks
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Posted on: 17-10-09 11:46:54
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 17-10-09 11:46:54
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Originally posted by sha2nk
Hi,once again millions of thanks. Honestly yesterday whole day I was waiting for your reply. Unfortunately I have not received any confidential email containing all information about training provider.
Hello,
It was sent to the Rediffmail address provided. I donot know why you did not receive it.
Anyways, I am sending it again as a PM (your inbox) and to your e-mail address that you provided in Canadian Desi,.
Peace by a PD
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Quote:
Originally posted by sha2nk1. In SAP all the jobs are contractual and never permanent? I would consider permamnet job initially so that I get some time to breathe as I dont have any SAP experience...
2. what is the chance of getting job after certification but without any implemetation expereince and average salary one should expect.. not average rather in worst cases???
Hello,
I replied to your e-mail but no response from you as of yet.
I have also sent all the confidential information as well as the best staff in the market details to your e-mail address along with where I am doign my SAP course.
To answer your questions :
1. Companies using SAP typically hire you to customise their SAP FI software to their policies. So this takes around 3 months to 3 years where you fine tune the system, teach the employees to handle it etc.. After that the company will run with bare min SAP Staff. 2-3 years are as good as being permanent. There are some small jobs running 1 month, 2 month in length and I donot think that a personb with your experience will even take it. It is for the Diploma holders without any Finance knowledge and who have learnt SAP. You have a solid background in Finance and solid knowledge in Finance and solid experience in Finance. However, having said that see me disclaimer in the point no 2 .
2. if you have Finance /Accountancy background SAP certification is NOT necessary. SAP Certification is for the people who are changing their carreer to SAP and those on EI , since EI allows 3 sap certification attempts. There are a lot of oxymoron's in taking certification. For example, only SAP 4.6 notes are given to you and the instructor teaching you may have only 4.6 experience. Your notes were printed in 1999 (Today is 2009). We are in SAP 6.0 version now. certification is done for 4.6 or 5.0 or 6.0. Some companies will have SAP 4.6, some 5.0 some 6.0. So taking certification for 4.6 may not help in companies running 6.0 and vice versa, though the instructors swear that there is no difference between 4.6 and 6.0. I personally have not come to the stage to find out.
Everyone in the market cooks up the resume. So you will be forced to show 2 years of SAP FI experience when you send out your first resume.
At the current time, It is very difficult to get a SAP FI job (not impossible). In USA it is equally tough, with many people out of H1B status and without jobs and many coming to Canada. Many Canadian companies are getting SAP people from TCS, Wipro, Satyam, Infosys etc.... The advantage of these people is the headache of hiring a PR/Canadian immigrant as they will fall under canada labour laws and it is difficult to fire them. Getting people from TCS etc.. on Work permit is advantageous as the managers can demand a person to be changed (if they donot like him/her) and a replacement will come from India in just days.
SAP FI Salary starts from $10 (Being a User- which a diploma holder does).
$20 an hour min. Super user (which is also a diploma holder).
You (a functional consultant - as you can customise the system) will start with a min. of $ 40.
Average range in 1 year of experience or one project cycle is $100-$140.
With 2 or 3 years you go to $200-$250 an hour.
Other SAP FI guru's can share.
Again my disclaimer (as told by all SAP ERP training partners) : It all depends on how well you work / study. If you donot get a SAP FI job, that only means that there is some mistake with you or that you have not studied properly or that you did not give the interview well. There are so many SAP FI jobs available in the market but you were not smart enough to get it. You canot blame us but only yourself (the person who paid to study SAP FI)
Hope this helps.
Peace by a PD.
SAP shares drop after firm cuts sales forecast
Sales and Profit falls short of market expectations
Shares in Germany's SAP dropped more than 7% in early trading Wednesday after the business-software firm cut its sales outlook for the year and reported a profit that missed market expectations.
The group said third-quarter net income 435 million euros ($645 million), helped by tight cost controls in the period and a lower tax charge. Analysts polled by Dow Jones Newswires had been expecting a stronger rise, to 443 million euros.
Total sales were down 9% at 2.51 billion euros and the group said its closely watched measure of revenue from software and software-related services is expected to fall 6% to 8% for the year.
Analysts at Commerzbank said the result was "a clear miss," with the performance in Germany, the U.S. and Japan not living up to expectations.
"The lowered software and software-related services guidance for 2009 indicates that the deal pipeline still suffers from a lack of larger deals and that clients remain reluctant to spend on SAP applications," the broker added.
Shares of the group fell 7.2% in Frankfurt.
Peace!
Hey thr
Just wanted a heads up from you guys.I need a advice.I also want to go in SAP module.Now i just want to know that which is best institute for it.I live in Brampton
I am also looking to move into SAP domain.
I have experience in IT field ( 10+ years ) .
I'll appreciate if somebody can throw some light which SAP module will be good for me .
Also what is the job prospect like in GTA ?
Can anybody help me here what just i mentioned above.
I just came from India last year its been 3 months.
I have completed my B.com(bachelor in commerce) from INDIA and after that i have done PGDBM(Post graduate diploma in Business management)
Right now i am working in Mississauga in Automotive company as a DATA ENTRY OPERATOR.
I have mailed to some institues like MLC COLLEGE,ERPTEK,ERPMASTERING,IIBS, for SAP MODULE.
Mlc college told me that SAP BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE is good for me.
IIBS they dont suggest me anything but they can provide training on watever course i want.
ERPTEK told me SAP MM is good for me.
Now the question is which institue and which course should i opt for SAP?
Please help here
