I dont agree with what is siad above.

1.what i guess is since more and more people have come to know the ground realities of canada they have changed their mind of coming to canada and so this may be a new way to extract money from them.

2. For work permit the employer has to prove that he cannot get the employee of this nature in the domestic job market and needs a HRDC approval .Grtting a HRDC approval is the toughest nut to crack and which means additional cost to the company.

Why would a company hire someone it doesnt know for higher salary without even interviewing him when it has the option of hiring a person at its own terms and at much lower salary or may be free as a trainee.

Can i have this questions to be answered before i can be convinced.

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I think we are missing one very important piece of information here...those who are coming here on work permits are mostly sent by their indian employers and are not getting hired directly.

lets examine the facts step by step..
Are people from across the world coming to Canada on work permits ?... yes
Do they get salaries at par with canadians ?...yes ( all work permits are first approved by hrdc)
So what is the catch...why cant qualified PRs get the same jobs which a person can get while sitting in India...

I think majority of those who come on Work Permit come as a part of their company's project. I came to know about 2 guys from bangalore who came on a 8 month IT project with Direct energy. It is their indian consultants who sent them here.
It is highly improbable that a canadian company will hire someone on an individual basis who is not even present in Canada, when there are so many highy experienced PRs available.

What do you say..does it make sense on why WP are coming in large numbers ( well, about 10/15 a day from india, if that figure is correct ) .
would like to hear what others have to say

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What can be imagined, can be achieved.

as rgds to direct energy ..(my ex employer) where i met some desi s/w pros.. they are hired by wipro and come here on contracts and then most apply n stay back as mostly once u r in a job n are looking for better opportunites chances are more to get one
secondly cgi has a tie up with tata consultancy
similarly some indian companies have bought over canadian cos and vice versa
so i believe my friends those who r already here on p- r dont even know whether or not those jobs are advertised and if so where
no question about employer no knowing the employee and not taking interview and that being the hard part
as most of these kind of jobs have shifted their way of hiring hence this imbalance (just my personal observation guyz)

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Hi Guys (jake3d,mercury6, & ani70)

Just thought of sharing the stuffs happening here in India. There are many firms who are providing work permit along with a software developer job offers to Canada.

The company, which I came to know said that The Canadian Company which is HPN CONSULTING GROUP, L.L.C., Manitoba, http://www.hpnconsulting.com, will file the papers with HRDC and get the work permit in 48 hours.

HPN Consulting group will interview us after we land there and if found suitable they will absorb us in there own software division or else they will help us getting job interviews with other concern, so basically the job is not guaranteed but your Work Permit and later PR is gaurnteed.

The younger brother of this group is running this consultancy firm in India; they have some 8 to 9 branches and are in this consultancy business for the past 8 years (That's what they said).

They had provided me few references of people whom they had sent to USA and Canada (Showed me Xerox copies of there VISA papers, Job Offer letter, and the Stamping of passport). They gave me few people Phone numbers and address. One person whose reference they had given (With whom I was interacting) left just few days ago to Canada.

They have now stopped sending people directly to USA cause of strict laws of USA; as such they are sending people to USA via Canada. They are providing post-landing service like assistance in getting

Social Security Number
Bank Account
Health & Medical Insurance
Job and
Driving License

Suppose if we don not get the PR within this 1 year, then the firm would apply on behalf of us to HRDC and extend our VISA by 1 more year and this they will continue till we get the PR.


Warm Regards

Sameer

Hi Sameer
Please check my posting to your queries in
http://www.canadiandesi.ca/read.php?TID=2206&page=2
Getting a Work Permit in 48 hours is not important important thing is whether they can provide you a job for atleast one year.One of my friend
also opened a Immigration firm in India and offering Work permit in IT area.When I asked him about the job prospect who couldn't reply me properly.I believe this is the latest trick of most of the immigration firm to mislead people as immigration process is taking 3-4 years time.Scarry part is if they are not able to provide you job they can always put blame on your capability by saying that you are not suitable for IT jobs in Canada(Mind they are not promising anything ..rather sounding if we found suitable etc etc)
This is my own perception ..so might not be true for your case..so take decesion accordingly

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They had provided me few references of people whom they had sent to USA and Canada (Showed me Xerox copies of there VISA papers, Job Offer letter, and the Stamping of passport). They gave me few people Phone numbers and address. One person whose reference they had given (With whom I was interacting) left just few days ago to Canada.

They have now stopped sending people directly to USA cause of strict laws of USA; as such they are sending people to USA via Canada. They are providing post-landing service like assistance in getting

Social Security Number
Bank Account
Health & Medical Insurance
Job and
Driving License
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Providing reference and showing XEROX copy of USAvisa etc are standard marketing process for any immigration firm.As far as post landing service is concerned I believe some of our Canadian Desi members already helping new immigrants and CD as a complete family planning to extend this help further

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ani

I think there could be a lot management related issues why companies go for work permit people rather than hiring someone directly and putting on their own payroll. I could be wrong, but I can think of some such reasons as:

1. The trend in North America is to outsource as much as possible, even for regular jobs, and not special projects alone. It could be outsourcing thru an agency, consultant company or a simple thing like having people who work from home and get paid for the work done, rather than fixed salaries (eg - TD Bank having mortgage consultants).

2. That being the fact, it is normally cheaper for the consulting company to get foreign workers say from India than to hire people with similar qualifications and background but Canadian PRs. The cost factor is not only related to Dollars and cents, but other things like benefits, working hours (unofficially), and biggest of all, stability (since a local guy can leave a project by giving due notice anytime while NORMALLY a W/P guy will not be able to do such a thing till the completion of project).

3. Next, while the company where the work is performed is outsourcing, usually has to pay more to a consulting company hiring local talent, than to a consultant hiring persons on work permit, since all the liablities of the company are transferred to the consultant.

4. In the short term it might look that the outsourcing company is paying the same amount whether they get persons locally or via W/p, however in the long term, it is cheaper for the company to get persons on W/P because of various issues like regular increments, pensions where companies have their own pension plans and contribution increases, more leaves in a year, carry forward of leave (so that a leave earned at $40 an hour is finally used or paid at $60 an hr) union issues if any, insurance contributions, medical benefits etc. Moreover, that is an ever increasing thing, so a person hired at say 60K in first year might be paid 65-70 k after 2 years plus increase in benefits, but a W/P guy can start all over again at 60 K.

Purely my analysis of the situation based on my own experience of hiring people, getting hired (like I have replaced a permanent employee in my company and I am on contract basis with fixed benefits in terms of dollars- and my contract period will not be counted towards the time for increase in benefits on a regular basis)

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Hi,

This is my first ever post on this wonderful resource. I'll be traveling to Canada soon on a study permit to attend Canada's premier Business School. My wife would be accompanying me on a dependent visa. I have heard that my wife would be eligible for a work permit once she lands in Canada without a job offer from a Canadian firm. Please confirm this.
Could someone also help me know the way to get a work permit for my wife? How much time does it take after we arrive in Canada?

Also, please throw some pointers on how she can go about searching for a suitable IT job after getting the work permit. She has had an illustrious career with IBM and then with Accenture. In all she would have ~3 years of experience.

My next step would be to apply for PR. If my wife arranges for a job, wont she be more eligible for the PR? Is it true that those with arranged employment have a shorter PR procesing times (4-8 months)? In that case, shouldnt my wife be the primary applicant?

Sorry for asking too much. I'm sure desis would be glad to help.

Regards,
ChangeMyJob