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haramiyonkaharami   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-08 04:44:38

Hi Folks

Here is the situation of my friend:

Went to school in Canada, got his degree. He started working on the Post graduate work permit. But the project he worked on ended within 6-7 months of his joining. He left Canada and started working overseas.

Now , his employer in Canada contacts him again for a project for 24 months. Does he need a HRDC approval now ? Can he just walk in to CHC in his country with letter of offer for Work Permit.

Does he ( or his employer) need to prove again why he is the right choice ?

Would appreciate the advice of all senior desis on this forum in his matter.


Cheers



haramiyonkaharami   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-08 12:26:45

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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-08 12:38:38

Since I don't know anything about work permits, I will answer based on some logic and hope it helps.

Does your friend still have a valid work permit from that employer?

If not, then his employer has to apply for one on behalf of your friend. And if the application process requires HRDC approval, then that must be done as well.


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Aashu   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-08 12:57:12

Is it difficult to call HRDC and find out ?



ftfl   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-08 14:09:33

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Originally posted by haramiyonkaharami

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No use sassing at the other 51. The heading is what attracts the viewer. Everyone want to know what the tricky situation is? May be you can tell me what it is. This is my second time, viewing the request and hence the fifty one.

My question to your friend is: Which job is better? The one that he is in or the old one that he left. Remember that a bird in the hand is......

Is the salary better, any chance of advancement or increase in salary? Is it result oriented? Do they have enough funding and will the position last? Or will he get thrown out again? Is there a guarantee at that job? ( Any competitors? ) The reason being, can he go and work for them if he gets kicked out again? Or is he restricted from seeking employment with them?

Tricky ain't it?

Ask his employer to jack up his salary to the next level or sweeten it up and provide him with a return ticket, so that it should cover his past losses or expenses incurred. Also find out if there are any chances of Immigrating Permanently.

The Employer does the whole arrangement. If he provides them with all of the Passport details, they even send an arranged ticket to be picked up at the airport ticketing counter. ( e-ticket)

Let them provide with an Employment letter with all of the "NOC Numbers and wage scales there in.(Attachment) and get an approval from the HRSDC. If they like him and his work, then here is what 'they' should do:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/temp_workers.shtml
Then courier it to his present location. He then enters and obtains the Visa stamped in his Passport as noted in that letter at the POE. Also request for multiple entry Visa. The employer foots the whole bill.

He could have walked in if it was the same employer. As he has left the country and the time has lapsed, they will have to re-establish the LMO and obtain a re-entry permit. Time taken? = 6 months or less.

If he has a family:
" Employers made many specific suggestions for improvement such as, for example, calling for an extension of the TFW employment period to two years and granting permission for spouses and children to come and work. As this is primarily a descriptive Review, we haven’t gathered and analyzed the kind of independent information that would allow us to make concrete recommendations concerning specific suggestions of this type."

Hope this helps a little.

Freddie.


Appendix:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Occupational_Classification
http://www.alis.gov.ab.ca/occinfo/Content/NocSearch.asp
Here is what he should ask for: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/poworkperm.shtml
*TFW = Temporary Foreign Worker
*LMO = Labour Market Opinion



haramiyonkaharami   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-10-08 04:51:37

Quote:
Originally posted by ftfl

Quote:
Originally posted by haramiyonkaharami

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____________________________________________________

No use sassing at the other 51. The heading is what attracts the viewer. Everyone want to know what the tricky situation is? May be you can tell me what it is. This is my second time, viewing the request and hence the fifty one.

My question to your friend is: Which job is better? The one that he is in or the old one that he left. Remember that a bird in the hand is......

Is the salary better, any chance of advancement or increase in salary? Is it result oriented? Do they have enough funding and will the position last? Or will he get thrown out again? Is there a guarantee at that job? ( Any competitors? ) The reason being, can he go and work for them if he gets kicked out again? Or is he restricted from seeking employment with them?

Tricky ain't it?

Ask his employer to jack up his salary to the next level or sweeten it up and provide him with a return ticket, so that it should cover his past losses or expenses incurred. Also find out if there are any chances of Immigrating Permanently.

The Employer does the whole arrangement. If he provides them with all of the Passport details, they even send an arranged ticket to be picked up at the airport ticketing counter. ( e-ticket)

Let them provide with an Employment letter with all of the "NOC Numbers and wage scales there in.(Attachment) and get an approval from the HRSDC. If they like him and his work, then here is what 'they' should do:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/temp_workers.shtml
Then courier it to his present location. He then enters and obtains the Visa stamped in his Passport as noted in that letter at the POE. Also request for multiple entry Visa. The employer foots the whole bill.

He could have walked in if it was the same employer. As he has left the country and the time has lapsed, they will have to re-establish the LMO and obtain a re-entry permit. Time taken? = 6 months or less.

If he has a family:
" Employers made many specific suggestions for improvement such as, for example, calling for an extension of the TFW employment period to two years and granting permission for spouses and children to come and work. As this is primarily a descriptive Review, we haven’t gathered and analyzed the kind of independent information that would allow us to make concrete recommendations concerning specific suggestions of this type."

Hope this helps a little.

Freddie.


Appendix:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Occupational_Classification
http://www.alis.gov.ab.ca/occinfo/Content/NocSearch.asp
Here is what he should ask for: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/poworkperm.shtml
*TFW = Temporary Foreign Worker
*LMO = Labour Market Opinion



Thank you very much FTFL , i will try to answer all the questions in the order in which they were posted:

The present job my friend is in, his contract would end in February 2009. Which means, likely that he would have to look for another source of employment ( just working on his options incase he is asked to leave) . Its around this time, his Canadian employer gets in touch and expresses his interest . As to which job is better, does it really matter now ????

As far as the salary thing goes, yes, he has demanded 75 % hike on his previous package to the Canadian employer. He would leave on good terms with the present employer (leaving the possibility of future employment open).


From the process you have mentioned, don't think any employer in Canada, to my knowledge would prefer all the work:

Return tickets
LMO issues
HRDC encounters
Letters

His employer wrote back to him, as he worked with him previously . If he finds out that he needs to do all this work, i can myself advice my friend to drop the idea. As last time my friend got the graduate work permit without HRDC/LMO and that made things easy for both the parties. Which means, the employer might not be aware that there exists this whole HRDC/LMO drama now , which he wasn't exposed to last time.

Chances for immigration , i guess he already applied for immigration. Wish there was a fixed time to know when your application gets approved.

6 months for LMO , i guess that answers most of his question.


Thank you once again . I shall get back to you should there be any further concerns.



bc2on   
Member since: Jul 08
Posts: 204
Location: Markham

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-10-08 11:09:24

Look at the original HRDC approval form and see the validity date. If he still holds the visa in the passport he may just buy a ticket. If it was a single entry, present it like a unpaid leave and attempt to apply for a visa at the embassy/consulate. All the best. I am not a lawyer





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