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This Hindu Conference of Canada has given the best reasons I have ever seen; this was published in the National Post in March: ------------------------------------------------------------- Put out the welcome mat for India's brightest March 14, 2005 Canada and the United States both use immigration to drive innovation in their knowledge economies. But thanks to their more enlightened approach, the Americans have been much more successful than us at attracting star talent from foreign shores. American high-tech start-ups and university-based research programs are critically dependent on educated immigrants from India, China and Taiwan. In 2000, 41% of U.S. PhDs went to foreign citizens. Of the other 59%, many went to Asian-Americans. Unlike their counterparts in Canada, skilled Asian immigrants to the United States are almost always able to escape menial labour. That is largely because educational and professional qualifications from reputable Third World institutions are recognized in the United States, both by government and large employers. Indians in particular have benefited from such far-sighted policies, which is one reason why immigrants from India enjoy the second-highest per capita income of any U.S. ethnic group, behind only Jews. According to the University of California Center for Comparative Immigration Studies, one in 11 Silicon Valley start-ups were founded by Indians. The IT exploits of Indian entrepreneurs such as Vinod Khosla, founder of Sun Microsystems, are now legendary. This success story has brought prosperity to the United States and India alike. Wealthy Indian immigrants have invested billions in India's IT and pharmaceutical industries. Scientists and entrepreneurs have returned to India from the United States to start companies. India's high-tech sector has, in turn, fed the stream of skilled immigrants who have sought jobs in the United States. The seeds of this virtuous circle of prosperity and innovation were sown a half-century ago when India established a set of universities known as IITs (Indian Institute of Technology). The United States began recruiting graduates from these world-class institutions and providing them with advancement opportunities. Some of the more prominent IIT graduates have included CEOs of American Airlines and McKinsey Consulting. America relies on professional work visas -- such as the H1B and L1 -- to attract well-qualified immigrants. For the last decade, Indian recipients led all nations in H1B visas granted -- one third of the total. As well, India contributes the largest number of foreign students at U.S. universities (75,000 in 2002-03). Additionally, U.S. employers now routinely visit campuses of top Indian universities to recruit graduates. Clearly, America recognizes the value of Indian human resources and does its best to tap this talent pool. In Canada, the story is very different. Relatively small numbers of skilled Indian immigrants have been admitted. Indians have been submerged in the generic category of "South Asian," along with newcomers from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka -- a category with an average income below that of white Canadians. According to the South Asian Legal Clinic of Ontario, 35% of South Asians live in poverty here. Chronic underemployment exists among skilled professionals from visible minority groups in part because Canada casts its immigrant net in too many nations. As a result, the "skilled professional" immigration category has lost its lustre. Confronted with immigrants arriving from a bewildering array of countries and academic institutions, each with its own divergent standards, recruiters are unable to separate the wheat from the chaff. With little guidance from government, the corporate sector often resorts to a blanket dismissal of all foreign credentials. Public sector institutions are equally guilty. While Canada suffers from shortages of medical professionals and teachers, thousands of excellent foreign doctors, nurses and teachers languish in menial labour. Bodies responsible for licensing foreign professionals lack transparent regulations and unjustifiably devalue foreign training and experience. Canada should adjust its immigration policies to favour nations such as India, which have democratic forms of government, strong education systems and a proven track record of supplying elite Western universities and corporations with academic talent. Moreover, immigration officials must consult closely with employers. In many cases, corporate recruiters are in a position to provide valuable insight into what nations and institutions are likely to supply skilled professionals, and so will not require excessive training or re-certification. One possible solution is to change the way Citizenship and Immigration Canada is staffed. Rather than depending solely on lifelong bureaucrats who are divorced from Canadian business realities, it would make more sense to recruit industry professionals. Ideally, these recruits would include successful Canadian immigrants who have the personal background necessary to appraise the scholastic and professional credentials of prospective immigrants from promising nations. Canada can gain immensely from its immigrant population. Changing the proportion of immigrants to favour those with relevant credentials from democratic nations, empowering previously landed skilled immigrants in the decision-making process for new immigrants, and creating a business environment that favours entrepreneurialism will enable the creation of our own Vinod Khoslas and Silicon Valleys. Ron Banerjee is a director with the Hindu Conference of Canada." rel="nofollow">LINK


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Post ID: 54266 10-08-05 11:51:39
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Cannot agree more than that post of desiottawa . One has to understand here that Indian system is far more established in the most powerful economy and strange their ( indian ) immigrants suffer in canada .
One highlight reason i would like to point here being ( with no offence meant ) the general clubbing of indian population with the other south asian countries ( bangladesh , pakistan , sri lanka etc) . Honestly , the systems of these countries still need to find their feet in their own nations let alone the US . Now Canada being the BIG BROTHER in accepting whoever applies has more or less lost the aptitude to perform a check on its incoming immigrants and their academic credentials .
So in general an Engineer from a decent institution in india comes under the same group as en engineer from pakistan or bangladsh or for that matter sri lanka . Not that these nations trained professionals lack skills or knowledge . But when it comes to comparision with indian system , i am sorry . But canada has remained ignorant towards this for a long time and will remain to do so as there is nothing similar to a silicon valley ( or any other field ) where indians come up with their own inventions . Its always a hand to mouth situation for them along with their counterparts .

Post ID: 54279 10-08-05 14:56:48
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While Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans may not be doing that well as compared to Indians, they are in good numbers in professions other than IT.
For example in academic circles you as as likely to find an India professor as any of the above (Taking into account that we are 1 billion and the others not so much, so adjust figure as per population).
Exact figures will have to be dug up.

At present IT may be our only strong point compared to the others.

Actually our numbers is our biggest strength.:D

I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.

Last edited by: mercury6 on 10-08-05 15:08:02
Post ID: 54280 10-08-05 15:07:10
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